PRS Archon

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  1. Serenity

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    I'm thinking about picking up a high gain amp, preferably head, and top of the list at the moment is the PRS Archon. It sounds fierce in the Youtube demos, and appears to sit nicely between Mesa Rec and Marshall. I know i have to get out and try one, but i'm interested in users opinions of it, especially the 100 watt version.

    So, what do you like, what do you not like?
    EL34 or 6L6?
    Is the 100 watt worth the extra £350 over the 50 watt?
    Are you using the PRS Cab, or did you find something better?
    If you flipped it, why, and what did you go with instead?

    These ain't cheap in the UK, and there's a fair bit of competition in this price range, but from what i've heard so far i'm surprised they aren't more poplular.
     
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    i would buy one of these in a heartbeat but i already have a fuchs viper which is pretty similar. i know someone who got one though and he loves it.

    i'd go with the 100 watt EL34 but that is just me.
     
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    I know this isn't the best forum for guys playing high gain stuff, but i thought there would be a few more of you that have tried the Archon.
     
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    I have played both of them the 6l6 version sounds cleaner than the EL34 version. I really like the cleans with the 6l6 nice full tone.Seems the 6l6 version also had a better low end thump when cranked. the EL34 versions has kind of a wimpy clean channel. As far as 100 watt VS 50. It is a loud 50 watts.
     
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    I've played the 50 watt 6L6 and 25 watter. Both sounded great I thought. I do wish the lead channel had a way to lower the gain stages into 2 or 3 stages. It has blow torch, flame throwing gain early on, but stays together nicely.
     
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    I think this is one of the things that appeals to me about the Archon. I've got amps that do the clean/crunch/medium gain thing really well, so i have that covered when i need it.
    I know it's not as versatile as a lot of the competition, but when amps try to be jack-of-all-trades they tend to compromise on something, and with high gainers it's usually the clean channel. PRS seem to have managed to make a monster of a metal amp that, while not being as flexible as a lot of others, has nailed the clean and brutal high gain.
     
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    From what i've heard on Youtube the 6L6 is the one that appeals most. My opinion may change when i try them out for myself, but the fact that the tubes are an easy swap makes the amp even more appealing.
    I'm interested to see if the 50 has the same low end response as the 100.
     
  8. Phil M

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    Gonna go try one today if I can.
     
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    I tried the 6l6 version and it was very underwhelming. I only spent 15-20 min with it and I just could not get along with it at all. It seemed to lack the punch my Marshall and Krank have. The cleans were nice though

    I love PRS guitars, but the PRS amps I have played all seem to lack something that would make them great. If the prices were lower, the Archon might have a chance of being around for a while. But I have a feeling this year will be the last production year for the Archon, the price is just too much for what it delivers
     
  10. BrentSP

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    I doubt the amp is going anywhere anytime soon. The archon has boosted PRS's amp sales and is their best selling amp yet. It's also turret board construction and not PCB with heyboer trannys. All boutique construction in a high gain two channel amp for under $2k is quite impressive. Most likely Paul will expand the line. Tone wise it's all subjective.
     
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    It's an excellent amp. I've played the 50 watt head and I'm saving up for the 25 watt combo as a grab and go. I absolutely love the heavy tones you can get from it. The only issue you might have is the effects loop. Apparently they're pretty noisy from what I've read on the PRS forum.
     
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    They are not popular at all in my area, How do you know that it boosted sales? The PRS dealers in my area can't get rid of them that is how I came to my conclusion.

    Yes tone is subjective
     
  13. BrentSP

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    I guess it's just demographics. The PRS rep came last summer and did seminar on the S2 line and Archon amps and I visited with him for some time about the amp and how it came about. Paul recruited a amp builder out of texas to move up to Maryland to build his high gain amps. Paul isn't a fan of the archons tone....not his thing but they are selling good so he's happy.
     
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    That makes sense
     
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    So i finally had a chance to check out the Archon. Great amp, pretty much covers all that i need it to, and if it wasn't for the price i'd probably take the plunge and go for it. But, there is a lot of competition for that price, and seeing that i can get a Diezel D-Moll for £450 less than the 100 watt Archon, and a Randall Thrasher is about £600 cheaper, i don't see it being worth the extra. I don't make snap purchases, and i'm still looking at other options, but the D-Moll is very tempting.
     
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    I played the 50 watt EL34 and dug it. Was low volume though. Would like to play through the 100 watt 6L6 head at high volume.
     
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    Your feeling is completly wrong!
     
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    Im a fan of high gain amps and Ive heard a couple clips of the Archon that yanked my crank. It really does kind of seem like a leaner meaner Dual Rectifier type sound.

    I do agree with some in the thread that the price is what is restrictive for me but Im not in a place to make huge amp purchases like some of the cats around here. That ultimately might be more of a problem long term for the Archon. People who want to spend $2000 dollars on an amp just arent going to view a major manufacturer like PRS as being the same level of cool (subconsciously or not) or unique as the Freidman, Fuchs, or other boutique offerings. If they can make a 50w around $1000 then they might get more visibility and interest in the big brother IMO
     
  19. BrentSP

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    PRS Archon porn

    For $1895 and no PCB construction. I'm a Bogner fan through and through but even Reinhold is nice and well built but still PCB.



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  20. BacchusPlateau

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    Isn't that big white piece in the center of the wiring a pcb board though?

    From Music Radar's review of the archon:
    "Archon has heavy-duty PCB strips - emulating a turret-board-style of layout"
     

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