Put me on some good AlNiCo speakers

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  1. Crowder

    Crowder Dang Twangler Silver Supporting Member

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    I'm interested in trying some AlNiCo speakers. Who makes the good stuff? What's the best VALUE in an AlNiCo speaker?

    Thanks
     
  2. gtrs

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    Weber are a great value and can hang with any offering from any other manufacturer.
     
  3. SatelliteAmps

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    Celestion Alnico Blue is pretty awesome, IMO.

    Best value, finding a used Jensen A12PM in an old radio for $10 at a swap meet.
     
  4. Rick360

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    Howdy,

    The measuring stick is arguably, the Celestion AlNiCO Blue, but they're pricey; $300.
    More affordable AlNiCO alternatives are: the Eminence Red Fang and Weber's AlNiCO Silver Bell and Blue Pup. Weber makes American style speakers, too. Good luck!

    Rick360
    PS: I've got a Weber AlniCo Silver Bell paired with my Carmen Ghia and it's great.
     
  5. bandmaster

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    Best value? I believe Weber would be the best value.
     
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    I have tried many of the popular Alnicos from cheap to super expensive. Even sprung for an original pair of Vox silver from 1967 and the Scumnico is my favorite. It comes closest to matching those original old speakers of any I have tried. It has the right blend of highs, mids and lows. It just sounds terrific.
     
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    For 12", Weber 12A150A (same as the speakers in the Fender '57 tweed twin RI). For 15", Weber 15A150.
    MD
     
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    Warehouse Guitar Speakers 50 or 100 watt Black Hawks. They are an American version AlNiCo speaker made incredibly well in the same vein as the Celestion Gold.

    LB
    BCM
     
  9. soundchaser59

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    Celestion Gold is superb, Webers are great, but it's hard to beat Tone Tubbys.

    I ran across a rumor that the Celestion Blues are not made in UK? But the Gold is? And the Gold is the only one actually made precisely to original specs? I cant find the article now......
     
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    ASW, elegante. Replaced all my Celestions, blue and gold. It's gonna be subjective and you'll basically have recommendations for every speaker made. You will need to try some with your setup, period. Good luck.
     
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    +1
    The 100 is a fantastic speaker.
     
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    Listen to Alex. SCUMNICOS!!!
     
  13. Trebor Renkluaf

    Trebor Renkluaf I was hit by a parked car, what's your excuse? Gold Supporting Member

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    Hmmm... I prefered the Alnico Blue to the Tone Tubby in my Dr. Z Carmen Ghia. The Tone Tubby was like placing a heavy blanket over the amp.
     
  14. Macaroni

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    All time classic AlNiCo = EV SRO

    Other high end (and costly) stalwarts...

    WGS BlackHawk 100W, Fane AXA12, Celestion Gold, Scumnico

    I had a Weber 50W AlNiCo Blue, but didn't care for it. It was not in the same league as those mentioned above. Neither was the Red Fang, IME. Both are nice speakers, but not killer like the others, IMO.
     
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    All Celestion Blues are made in the UK. the "Vox" labeled blue celestion speakers are made in China.
     
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    Did you have one of the early Tone Tubbies? (the H1 cone). I don't find the new ones (H1E) are dark at all, and indeed are brighter than many others. Maybe on par with or a tad darker than the Blues, which are a relatively bright speaker.

    If you do have an old tone tubby, just turn up the treble on the amp :) And make sure you break them in a long time.
     
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    Oh, and to the OP, some great alnico speakers are Blues, Golds, Tone Tubby, ASW, Fanes, Scumbacks ... lots of options, all great.

    Best value? Depends on what you want. Webers are very good and less expensive. Blues can be had for about $200 used, not cheap but there's nothing else like them.
     
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    The Eminence Red Fangs are quite nice, too.
     
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    That's what it is...... thanks for clarifying. The G10 Greenback I had was UK made also. The UK made Celestion drivers have noticeably superior sound. Oddly, I like the Gold alnico better than the Tone Tubby alnico, but Tone Tubby ceramics beat every other ceramic I've ever had, including Weber.

    It's difficult to imagine a Tone Tubby having a blanket-on-the-amp sound, it makes me question whether it was broken in at all....

    I agree the Webers are not quite in the same league as the other big names, but I think that is why I like them. The big dogs seem to emphasize some of the qualities that I dont like in speakers, while Weber's speakers seem to smooth out and gloss over the things I dont like. I think Weber's (ceramics) hold up extremely well when compared specifically to Celestion (ceramics), and I just like the smoothness better than most Eminence also.
     
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    Also, the Blue is made to original specs, the Gold is not. The Gold has a different voice coil enabling it to have a much higher wattage rating. The Blue is pretty dang close to one of the original Celestion Alnico speakers (they made more than one.)
     

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