Question about the MusicomLab EFX Routing System

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  1. JKoeth

    JKoeth Supporting Member

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    I am new to this sort of thing.

    Can this box be pugged into an amp channel switcher or a head switcher (like the Axess HS2) or both via Midi or otherwise?

    http://obgcustom.com/web/musicom/musicom.html

    I'm a little confused about these things. Just a plug and play guy.

    It seems pretty cool and a good bang for the buck all around system.
     
  2. Scott Peterson

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    It has a 1/4" out for relay switching right from the EFX. It has a midi out in addition to that if you need the HS2 for further switching options.
     
  3. JKoeth

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    Thanks Scott,

    It looks like a great unit and it is small which I like. I'll probably have some more questions about it soon. I'm trying to redesign my board with the most flexiblity for upgrades and changes in the future.

    Cool little box!
     
  4. JKoeth

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    Hey Scott,

    What are the actual dimensions of the box itself (not including switches). The site is not clear wether their dimensons include them or not. I am particularly interested in the height of the rear of the box.

    One more thing, is there an ABY switch that is midi controlable out there?
    Thanks!!
     
  5. JKoeth

    JKoeth Supporting Member

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    What I may be looking to do in the future:

    Guitar>Pedalboard>Musicom>Headbone>

    Spilt to:

    ABY to 2 Channel Amp

    1 Channel Amp


    As I can see, I could use the 1/4" relay switch on the Musicom to control the Headbone (or HS2) and could use the Midi to control an ABY for the 2 Channel amp.

    Does this make sense or would there be a better way to go?
     
  6. drbob1

    drbob1 Silver Supporting Member

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    Yes, it'll send Midi messages to control other gear so it can control the Axess. Ask Scott Peterson about it, he seemed impressed (if you do a search there's a previous thread).
     
  7. Scott Peterson

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    It measures 2-1/4" high in back; 1-3/4" high in front; 8-1/2 wide and 6-15/16" deep.

    Mario from Axess Electronics makes a switcher that controls most amps out there. http://www.axess-electronics.com/
     
  8. JKoeth

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    Thanks Scott! I really appreciate it.

    The Amp that I'm looking at, the new Tophat Supreme 16, does not have a switching mechanism. It is simply 2 amps in one. Therefore, it would require a separate ABY switch like the Lehle Dual in order to use both channels.

    The Head switcher is for another purpose-Using 2 different heads (The Tophat Supreme 16 and the King Royale) into the same cab.

    Thanks OBG,

    Both the Headbone and HS2 have a footswitch jack. I originally thought that the EXT jack could be used but now have read that it is only an input.

    I am still searching for an ABY that could be controlled via Midi. I have emailed Lehle and am waiting on a reply.

    Do either of you know of an ABY that could be controlled this way? Could the Axess GRX4 be used as an ABY? Maybe there is another all in one solution out there.
     
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    I am trying to think of a design for WOBO to make for me that is like a cross between a custom Prog-Looper and a ToneCzar VFM... any ideas? I am working on a big transcription tonight, but maybe tomorrow night I will get the ol' pen & paper out and give it a go...
     
  10. musicom lab

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    You can substitute two loops of the EFX for the ABY splitter.

    For example,
    Loop 7 SND -> clean channel input
    Loop 8 SND -> dirty channel input
    Do not insert a 1/4" plug into RTN jacks of Loop 7 & 8.

    You can control clean, dirty or clean + dirty sound according to the On/Off status of the Loop 7 & 8 .

    Note : two split signal is not isolated each other.
     
  11. JKoeth

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    Thanks for the info Musicom!

    I'm not sure what this means:

    Note : two split signal is not isolated each other.

    Does this mean it could be susceptible to ground hum, etc.?

    I'm curious about how the 1/4" out for relay switching that Scott mentioned works and what it can be used for.

    Would it be possible to post clips of the rear of the unit?


    Scott,

    Have you been using the Buffer?
     
  12. JKoeth

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    One more thing fellas. Are the loops in constant series or can the order be switched per program.

    That is, can one preset have Guitar>loop 1>loop 2>loop 3 and another preset have Guitar>loop 1>loop 3>loop 2?
     
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    Is it just me mistinterpretting things or does this little box have the ability to change the effects order placement in the chain?
     
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    I'm not sure. I looked at the manual and there are still some things left unexplained...
     
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    You cannot change the order of the loops.
     
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    So Scott,

    I know you used to own a few Loooper 5 way boxes. What makes this one so much better for you? Is it the buffer? More loops? Midi?
     
  18. Scott Peterson

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    It is simply better because with "one" click I can switch any/all of my pedals in true presets and programming this is soooo simple. It is a much higher quality peice of gear than any of the looper boxes I have owned; and admittedly does far more than I actually need... but to me it is well worth the money to have something as small and sturdy that does EXACTLY what I have wanted all these years.

    It is similar to having a rack system in terms of power, but uses my pedals that are on my board at my feet which I am far more comfortable with.

    With the amount of projects I play in, I can set up presets for all of them and easily reprogram it for a given songlist. On the set list, I'll then put "Bank 1, Preset 1-2" next to the song and can set up the whole show in a flash.
     
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    Thanks Scott,

    I am very intrigued.

    Are you using the buffer?
     
  20. Scott Peterson

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    I'd better subscribe to this thread, eh? ;)

    I use the second buffer; but turn off the first one. The Blackstone doesn't like buffers in front of it. And in my world, all hail the Blackstone. :D
     

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