Rasgueados, please help identifying them

ivers

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I try to learn different rasgueados, and hear a lot that sound nice, that I want to learn, but trying to figuring them out is murdering me, so I would greatly appreciate some tips about how to exectue these, like which fingers in what order etc.

The ones around 0:15, and the ones on the chord progressions starting at 3:11



At 0:20 in this vid



Thanks in advance!
 

splatt

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first, ivers:
thanks for the clips.

and:
Friend here is a lesson with the 6 “rasgueos” basic right hand techniques in flamenco guitar
[FONT=&quot]by Paco De Lucia

http://www.rdiaz.org/rdvideo50.html

Regards!

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thank you!
so clearly presented, so musically well-executed, maestro!

and, a simple question for you, snr. díaz:
i wonder if you're still teaching/living in toronto?


dt / spltrcl
 
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rubendiaz

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first, ivers:
thanks for the clips.

and:


thank you!
so clearly presented, so musically well-executed, maestro!

and, a simple question for you, snr. díaz:
i wonder if you're still teaching/living in toronto?


dt / spltrcl

Yes friend Splat I teach and live in Toronto
here is the school in which I work nowadays
http://www.cfgstudio.com/cfgs-video1.html


Where do you live?

Look this is my band
http://www.rdiaz.org/rdvideo160.html

http://www.rdiaz.org/rdvideo158.html

All the best
Ruben
 

ivers

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Update: My rasgueados are coming along nicely, which makes the hard work feel worthwhile and inspiring even more work.

A nice tips for other flamenco beginners working on rasgueados is for when you're starting to being mechanically able to move the fingers in sequence without it feeling physically awkward, and you'll probably still find that it's challenging to avoid a falling-down-staircase-effect, a very uneven rhythmic thing with little control over accents.

To counteract this, I work with (and without sometimes) metronome, and play subdivisions that don't line up mathematically with the amount of fingers playing a given rasgueado. This way, I'm getting able to physically accent whichever finger I wanna, and be more aware of playing rhythmically rather than just let the fingers do what's most physically easy for them.

In a practical example: The rasgueado is a-m-i, which is three fingers. So I then play this as 16th notes, accenting after playing four strokes. To develop on this, I change chords on every accents, but this is not necessary when starting this excercise (just damp the left hand, or play a static chord).

Like this: a-m-i-a-m-i-a-m-i-a-m-i-a-m-i-a-m-i-a-m-i, and so on

If the rasgueado is four fingers, then I play triplets, accenting after playing three strokes.

Hope this can help!
 
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shigihara

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@rubendiaz...

thank you so much for your -as dt put it- clearly presented & musically well executed videos... very inspiring ! i've been working on the 6 ragueos forms -your presentation is really helpful...

best, paul
 

shigihara

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Ruben, thank you... the principles of finding and being aware of 'the center'
seems to be very important... re:rasgueos...i'm of course in 'slow motion' state but it's all inspiring... btw, we have a project coming up in spring 2011
where we have chano dominguez as a guest and vince mendoza writing the
arrangements and leading our band... i hope i can incorporate some stuff
by then... :) take care, paul

Thanks Paul for your interesting comment, my humble opinion is:

[FONT=&quot]That knowledge should be available, just like in this excellent forum, I think people learn and see things, I post this free lessons with the only intention to share the things I know with others just for the joy of shearing,if you try to practice these rasgueos also check this lesson here: http://www.rdiaz.org/rdvideo519.html

Regards
Ruben


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