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Rasmus/Suhr guitars- Pete Thorn's opinion

sinasl1

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Hi dudes,

so awhile back I was visiting the Suhr factory, and Ed handed me a Modern, and asked me what I thought- I played it for a few minutes, and it was exceptional, felt like a typical Suhr guitar to me. Then he explained it was a sample, one of the protos for what's become the Rasmus line....

Well, first off, I was surprised- I had many of the same thoughts/questions/concerns as many of you. But I was holding this guitar, and it was essentially flawless. I mean, one of my concerns was actually how would this line affect sales of the regular Suhrs, because the guitar felt and played and looked so damn good. Flawless finish, perfect frets (makes sense, since the Suhr guys had done the whole setup). Obviously tight tolerances.

So we talked for a long while, and I brought up many things like what had happened to the Charvel/Jackson and Kramer lines in the 80's, etc. And Ed basically answered all of my questions, I didn't realize just how much experience and background he has dealing with Asian guitar factories, he really knows his stuff. He explained to me that with many of these companies in the 80's and 90's it was just about bottom line and expanding as fast as possible, and that they'd be raking in cash and living high on the hog, and maybe 1000 guitars would show up on the dock from Asia and the quality would be sub par, and that the bean counters would just send em out, instead of returning them. The Suhr guys clearly want nothing to do with that sort of b.s.- I don't know anyone more concerned with quality than John- so trust me he gets it, there's really no way he'd put his name on something if it wasn't up to snuff. Like, he wouldn't be able to sleep at night anymore. He just wouldn't do it. So whatever Ed has sorted out as far as a factory goes, I'll tell you, this guitar I played felt just exceptional.

As far as demographic, from what Ed told me they are aiming for the dudes that would normally be buying the Ibanez, the Schecter, the guys on the Petrucci forum that really would love a Suhr but can't (til now) afford it. Young guys or guys on a budget playing modern rock, metal, shred, etc.- hence the H-S-S and H-S-H pickup layouts, floyds, Modern body shape etc.

So that's my take on it. Pick one up and play it before you worry too much about anything else- honestly, Ed handed me this guitar, I didn't know, literally had no idea I wasn't playing a US made Modern when I played it, until he told me- so I guess that in of itself is an endorsement.
 

Last Nerve

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Great post, Pete.
I've played some MIJ Fenders that rocked.
Some MIJ Ibanez' that were amazing.
You gotta pick one up and hold it.
 

XKnight

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It will be interesting to see if the prototype you played and the production line guitars are at the same level.
 

xntrick

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i just sold a MIJ Kramer that was well made, in fact it has a headstock similar to the ones i see on Suhr guitars..did Ed design that back in the day?
 

Guitar Josh

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It will be interesting to see if the prototype you played and the production line guitars are at the same level.
Exactly. That guitar was setup and polished by some of the best luthiers in the business, not mass produced in the pacific rim.
 

Dave L

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Exactly. That guitar was setup and polished by some of the best luthiers in the business, not mass produced in the pacific rim.
...which all of them will be, I understand. Suhr will do the fretwork and set-up in-house according to the website.
 

enharmonic

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John has worked hard to build and maintain his well-deserved reputation.

I'd have no doubts about owning a Suhr import line guitar that was manufactured to his exacting standards.
 

atquinn

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Will they be SS frets like the USA Suhrs? If so, I'd buy one sight unseen.
No. I too would buy one sight unseen if it had SS frets. It would be a no-brainer with those specs. But given that SS frets aren't standard on the Pro Series guitars, I don't see how it would make any sense to make them standard on the Rasmus..es.... Rasmi..... whatever :D

-Austin
 

GASattack

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I dont think they are SS frets, the website just says German made fret wire.

John has done so much to maintain and perfect his craft and his image. When I read that the guitars will be shipped to CA for plek and setup before shipping out, he is just opening himeself to a larger market.

Its not like he is going to do what Kramer and Jackson did back in the 80's. They pumped out alot of crap. The CA shop doing all finalization and setups will ensure tight QC.

I read that the name was derived from Johns real Danish family name. So it still is his name. I think this was a GREAT idea, to help keep it easy to distinguish CA made guitars from these new ones.

This continues to say high class in my book ... and why John is getting my order for a guitar as soon as I get finished moving ....

Kevin Peace
 

stratman89

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I think this is good direction on John's part to capture a market of players that are looking for guitars priced below entry level Suhr's. I'm confident through Suhr's QC these guitars will also be a great success.

http://www.rasmusguitars.com/
 

carbz

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Doesn't surprise me one bit really. Many of the MIM Fenders are at least playability and fit and finish wise on par with the higher end fenders. Obviously they don't use the same electronics but a $150 pickup swap will solve that problem if you don't like the factory tone. The only negative I see from this is if the guitar is really that good and almost indistinguishable from his USA made versions quality wise it may hurt the sales of the USA guitars. I think its safe to say in most cases if not all most business owners would prefer to move/sell merchandise that offers a higher return of profit regardless of the product itself. Maybe John could make more profit off the overseas guitars despite the fact that the buying price is so much less then his USA models so its a win win for everyone. Now if I were in the market for a guitar I'd wait for this really nice Rasmus/Suhr to come up used and save myself another 40%........LOL
 




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