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Really disappointed with fender(new super champ)........

harry65

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just saw online the new super champ x2 which replaces the xd , being a guy that has gigged the xd for almost three years now at a minimum of 3 days a week i obviously love the xd , i was really hoping they would address some of the weakness's in the new version , it looks like they really haven't changed a thing except offering it in a head cab combp(converted mine to a head long ago) , imo they could have made the greatest fender amp to come out in over thirty years with just a few simple tweaks , namely..........

ditch the crappy effects and add a real spring reverb
go with a 12 inch speaker in the combo
make the bass and treble controls 10% more effective for the channels

these are easy fixes , if they really wanted to make an amp that would sell millions they could also..........

break up the 16 presets into two different channels , one with the cleaner fender models and the second channel with the heavier ones so you could footswitch between em

larger tranny that could run either 6v6's or 6l6's for between 15 - 25 watts

then they could double the price from $300 to $600 and sell a million but what do i know???????? oy vey............
:bonk:bonk:)
 

Waxhead

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no surprised
It's been obvious over the past 10 years that Fender amps aren't interested in innovation or in really improving anything - they sell millions as is :p
 

Frank Speak

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I'm not that familiar with anything Fender offers in their amp line-up other than the re-issues and Hot Rods. That said, what really astonishes me is how a company can be around as long as they have and still not, apparently, be able to design a decent mid to high gain circuit. I don't have any use for a high gain amp, but I'm always interested in checking out Fender's latest high gain offering just to see if they finally found something. It's almost like driving by a bad wreck. You know you don't want to see it, but you can't help but rubberneck. Once you do, you wish you hadn't.
 

Maruuk

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Love my SCXD w/RC but you can see what they're doing here: putting out a 12" combo version would be just too dang close to the vastly more expensive DRRI and frankly it would sound too good for the price. Folks would be wondering what they're paying for in the DRRI. Half of Fender's marketing is carving out protective boundaries around existing cash cows. The piggyback is different enough to not be a direct competitor.

BTW, are folks liking how that sounds? Haven't heard that head/cab combo yet.
 

harry65

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Love my SCXD w/RC but you can see what they're doing here: putting out a 12" combo version would be just too dang close to the vastly more expensive DRRI and frankly it would sound too good for the price. Folks would be wondering what they're paying for in the DRRI. Half of Fender's marketing is carving out protective boundaries around existing cash cows. The piggyback is different enough to not be a direct competitor.

BTW, are folks liking how that sounds? Haven't heard that head/cab combo yet.
sad but true.............:(
 

teleman1

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What Fender should do is follow some of you TGP'rs advice and go out of business.

Hi-gain? You checked out the 5153????
The SCXD is a great amp and it is what it is.
 

Kelly

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A Champ is an entry level bedroom amp. If you're gigging 3 times a week, invest in a proper amp for such purposes.
 

Frank Speak

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What Fender should do is follow some of you TGP'rs advice and go out of business.

Hi-gain? You checked out the 5153????
The SCXD is a great amp and it is what it is.
No, I'm not familiar with that amp. Like I said, I don't spend much time around Fender amps; more of plexi nut. And, I don't want them to go out of business. I LOVE my Strat.
 

harry65

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A Champ is an entry level bedroom amp. If you're gigging 3 times a week, invest in a proper amp for such purposes.
i've had guitarists for major acts we backed up compliment me on my tone , it is a "proper" amp for me , keep your cork..............
 

BPSUL

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Kelly said:
A Champ is an entry level bedroom amp. If you're gigging 3 times a week, invest in a proper amp for such purposes.

Can i have your autograph???
 

jzero

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I also converted mine to a head. I commend fender for doing the same. Also, they did add tap tempo for the delay. That makes the fx section a LOT more useful. I just wish they'd given it 5+ watts and pull-pots for the bass and treble to give it deep and brightness switches.
 






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