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Recommend me some lower output P-90's

terrapin

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Anybody know what the output on the P-90's in the 60's Tribute is? And, what really good low output P-90's are out there. Not looking to swap out immediately, but I do love playing around with different pickups. I play mostly clean to low-medium gain stuff and have up to now relied heavily on pedals, but that is all with Strats! I play through either a Fargen '59 AC15 or a modded Blues Jr.

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cratz2

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Lower output P90s? Blasphemy!

P90s are about being loud and mean and full of attitude!

:p
 

terrapin

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Lower output P90s? Blasphemy!

P90s are about being loud and mean and full of attitude!

:p

You're right they are about that,but NOT JUST that. You don't know the sweet thick clean sound of a low output P90 in the neck position......that's a shame!:aok
 

jcs

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You're right they are about that,but NOT JUST that. You don't know the sweet thick clean sound of a low output P90 in the neck position......that's a shame!:aok
This....I had to finally pull the stock neck 8.7k P-90 in my 65 SG Special....just too bassy, gainy and dark.....i wanted clean chords out of the neck.

Went 7.8k with alnico 2 & 4 magnets...outstanding and its a cheap import P-90.

Oh that stock 8.7k sounds killer in the bridge now!

The original bridge P-90 was long gone, so it's a win win!
 

dazco

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This....I had to finally pull the stock neck 8.7k P-90 in my 65 SG Special....just too bassy, gainy and dark.....i wanted clean chords out of the neck.

Went 7.8k with alnico 2 & 4 magnets...outstanding and its a cheap import P-90.

Oh that stock 8.7k sounds killer in the bridge now!

The original bridge P-90 was long gone, so it's a win win!
Man, this is exactly what I've been thinking about doing ! I love the gibsons in my LP special. But yes, the neck is too hot to get the clean jangly tones i wanna hear from it. I happen to have a cheap P90 (wilkenson) sitting in a drawer or box somewhere and have been debating whether to do this. If it happens to be too hot, tho if i recall it's not, i can always unwind it a bit. (done that many times so no worries. I'm sure i'd have gotten around to trying this eventually, but you just gave me the push i needed to try it soon. The lack of brightness/clarity from the neck is all that stands between that LP being my #1 or not. It will kill if this works. Why gibson didn't do this is beyond me.
 

59Bassman

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Fralins. Standard bridge, 5% underwound neck. Amazing tone. In my semihollow korina Hamer they sound like the world's largest telecaster with the volume back a bit, but get very T-Bone Walker with the volume all the way up. Not cheap, but IMHO worth every penny.
 

chuckmillen

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Physically lower the pickup to get rid of the heat. Raise the poles on the treble side to lessen the boom...
 

JKjr

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Fralins. Standard bridge, 5% underwound neck. Amazing tone. In my semihollow korina Hamer they sound like the world's largest telecaster with the volume back a bit, but get very T-Bone Walker with the volume all the way up. Not cheap, but IMHO worth every penny.
I'm a P90 freak. These just KILL! Lollar low winds are just as good, just different.
 

dazco

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Physically lower the pickup to get rid of the heat. Raise the poles on the treble side to lessen the boom...
Doesn't work, not on mine at least. I tried it all. Lowered, poles way up, both simultaneously, various degrees, u name it. Doesn't work. The output is just too high no matter what i do.
 

rummy

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Another vote for Fralins. I had them on my PRS Soapbar, and they're outstanding for the vintage vibe.
 

mad dog

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Best I've heard, all in the "not too hot" category:

Lollar standard wind
Duncan Antiquities
Wolfetone Mean and Meaner

I heard the lollars in a solidbody, Collings 290. Excellent. The others are in hollowbodies, so it's tough to compare. But still, you cannot go wrong with any of these. (I've heard some really nice Fralin P-90s too, but never owned any.)

MD
 

cratz2

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You're right they are about that,but NOT JUST that. You don't know the sweet thick clean sound of a low output P90 in the neck position......that's a shame!:aok
I was just kidding... Doing the macho TGP thing.

I have GFS Mean 90s in a first year PRS SE, BG Pure 90s in an older Korean LTD VIPER (SG-like) and previously Duncans in an ESP LP type, Gibsons in a LP DC and a Lollar Charlie Christian in a tele.

I really like the BGs. That it isn't overly aggressive or bassy in the neck of my particular guitar is she they are my favorite set I've owned. I do really like the Mean 90 in the bridge and the middle position, but in the neck position, it just doesn't work for me with gain.

Not crazy about the Gibsons or the Duncans, but loved the Charlie Christian. Rarely too bassy but it can be as aggressive or smooth as you want. Very responsive pickup.

I'd be interested in getting a lower wind neck P90 from one of the boutique guys.
 

mslugano

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I've got Suhr S90s in two guitars (one Suhr and one PRS) and they are by far the best sounding P90s I have ever played. Nice and clear with a clean setting (sounds mostly like a big Tele) and screams LP Jr. when cranked up

Check out the clip of Greg Koch with a Suhr T Jr. and S90 pickups for an idea of what they do. This is the video that made me want to give them a try.

 

woodbury

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Another vote for Fralin. I have 15% under on the neck pickup and stock on the bridge one on my vintage '56 ES-175.

Lollar P-90 '50s wind is another good option. Neck is about 7.1k.
 

misa

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I haven't tested it myself but according to the Epi chart, 8.1k



 






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