I had a Sony that took High 8 tapes for years and it had a great built in mic for recording loud gigs. No clipping great sound. It started breaking down and wanted to move to the memory card thing to hold more and cheaper. So a couple of years ago I picked up a Canon FS200. Great built in mic but no HD. It was $299. I tried a JVC that was over $400 that took better video but the built in mic sucked! I was thinking about trying an HD Canon that Sam's club has for $350 with a built in mic. Thinking it prob. has the same recording quality as this one. I'm hoping. But I was wondering what other guys are using with built in mics for recording their bands. I've had a couple of band friends record with Higher def. cameras that looked good but the sound was very digitally and CLIPPED like crazy. Here's a clip of our gig outside. All miked into a pretty loud powerful system. Would really love better picture quality but don't want to spend a ton.