Replacement Speaker for Peavey Classic 30 Combo

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  1. dcstratguy

    dcstratguy Member

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    A few years ago, I replaced the stock Blue Marvel speaker of my Peavey Classic 30 with a Celestion Vintage 30. As far as tubes go, I replaced the stock tubes with Groove Tube EL-84S#10's in the power stage, and 12AU7's in the preamp stage. I did this in order to gain the maximum amount of clean headroom I can get out of the amp with that vintage tone that the classics are known for. I like the tone of the Vintage 30. However I have been noticing that the speaker emits some strange sounds when pushed at higher volumes with overdrive and distortion pedals. :confused: My friends call it "Cone Cry" or a "Double Note" sound. I do not notice so much in the low end. It happens more if I am soloing in the higher registers. It basically sounds like I activated an octave splitter. Does anybody have any speaker recommendations for this combo that would give me more headroom and clarity? I have heard good things about the Celestion GT12-80 Classic Lead. Any tips would be greatly appreciated.
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    Dave
     
  2. Electric I

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    Had a C30 awhile back & replaced the 'blew' marvel with an emi texas heat. A definite improvement.
     
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    As far as I can figure ghost noting occurs when the power section is pushed too hard in some amps. This happens with my Rivera and to a lesser extent with some of my other amps. With the Rivera I ruled out the speaker. Something to do with the power supply filtering. I have to push the amp really hard for it to occur. Some say this can be also caused by "cone cry" too .
    I had what I could call "cone cry" for me with my Supersonic. It sounded like a nasty,raspy distortion on top of the distortion. It occured when I cranked the clean channel up to the break up point. This was VERY loud! I guess the cones on the G12H-30 and G12-65 couldnt handle it. After I replaced the speakers with heavier G12K-100's the raspy distortion on top of the sound went away. I figure this must have been a form of cone cry. Of coarse I read conflicting thoughts on the matter so who knows. Bob
     
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    If you really dig the Vintage 30 sound, maybe try the Eminence Govenor. It is supposed to be voiced like the Vintage 30 but less harsh on the top end. I also believe it handles a bit more power. Good Luck.
    Mike
     
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    Weber Blue Dog AlNiCo 30w no dope!
     
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    If it is cone cry, having the speaker doped is supposedly the cure. This would be a very inexpensive solution... no need for a new speaker.
     
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    I'd go over to Eminence's website at http://www.eminence.com and have a browse through their guitar range. They've plenty of options at a good price.
     
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    Well I don't think that will give you much "clean headroom" there but I bet you must get a great, warm crunchy distortion - there's no better speaker IMO for that sort of stuff. But wouldn't you worry about blowing it - Classic 30s have a fair bit of guts?
     
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    I would go with a warehouse veteran 30 or a Celestion G12H30. Your Vintage 30 speaker is already doped, so it should have minimal cone cry....
     

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