RESULTS !! => 3 Quick Clips Axe Fx 3 12.03 -vs- Helix Floor 2.80 * Fixed & Updated Take 2 *

Discussion in 'Digital & Modeling Gear' started by helixuser1995, Feb 11, 2020.

  1. adamquek

    adamquek Member

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    Never owned an Axe FX 3, but I had the AFX 2 for awhile and I loved it. It did, to my ears, sound just that little bit more complex and chewy than Helix.

    But.

    Helix sounds great to me to, and I can pretty much only hear the difference when I'm scrutinizing soloed tracks. In a mix, when I'm caught up playing, and live, the difference is negligible to me. And with Helix Native, I have one platform for EVERYTHING (jamming, gigging, recording, practicing), and not having to re-amp is priceless. For all those reasons, Helix is the best of all worlds for me at the moment. If there was a Fractal VST, I'd be all over that like white on rice, but I think Line 6 is the first and only company to have hit it out of the park on that front. I look forward to more companies doing that though... competition is always good for the consumer.
     
  2. LaXu

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    I had an Axe-Fx 2 for years and was able to dial my Helix 99% the same to my favorite patches when using the same IRs. I agree that the Fractal sounds a bit fuller, which is a similar thing I detected in these clips. The better hardware user interface of the Helix won for me.
     
  3. Jarick

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    Listened again last night and still really couldn't tell too much.

    My only guess is that Y is Helix because you had heavy cuts and a compressor at the end of the chain like Jason Sadites would do.

    Listening one more time on my Airpods, the first amp sounds a tiny bit warmer so I prefer that in the first set. In the second set I almost like the brighter second amp as it had more of a punk rock feel. In the third I like the first a bit more as it had more balls.
     
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  4. Billinder33

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    I only listened through my laptop speakers and don't have any experience with FAS, but the gain structure in X sounded the most 'Helixy' to me.

    I'm ready to be shown up.... OP, time to release the Kraken.
     
  5. helixuser1995

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    RESULTS

    Modeller X = all Axe FX 3
    Modeller Y = all Helix Floor

    Clip 1:- Axe FX 3 Morgan AC20 -vs- Helix Litigator => same IR for both with zero lo or hi cuts
    Clip 2:- Axe FX 3 AC 30 " HOT " -vs- Helix Litigator => same IR for both with zero lo or hi cuts
    Clip 3:- Axe FX 3 1959 SLP -vs- Helix Bright Plexi => same IR for both with zero lo or hi cuts

    Arnold Z.
     
  6. Fireproof

    Fireproof Supporting Member

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    Very cool. Like I said earlier - I liked both - both sounded great. Nice demos. I liked the three different clips and showing them back to back.

    I only really noticed the difference right when I switched from one modeler to the other. Once it had played for a while, I lost the difference in my head.

    Anyway - nice job. Fun post.
     
  7. Ni6htWalker

    Ni6htWalker Member

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    nope didnt sound identical,X have more low end and Y sound more thin.
     
  8. mvsr990

    mvsr990 Supporting Member

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    Called Y as the Helix based on the crackling decay on the first one.
     
  9. djd100

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    This test was too limited in scope to prove anything aside that the IR is a HUGE percentage of the tone, as is the real cab etc.
     
  10. MixMinisterMike

    MixMinisterMike Supporting Member

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    Cool but your blue text is almost unreadable for those of us who use dark mode on the site (the little light bulb icon in the upper right).
     
  11. mehegama

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    To me, through my airpods it sounded identical with some differences here and there, to the point where in practice you cannot tell the difference. In a mix there is absolutely no way to tell them apart, but it is a matter of dialing them. With a bit of eq one can tone match them completely, as the core tone is there for both. There is a great vid in yt where a guy tone matches with eq an original pod to a real dual rec and sounds almost identical
     
  12. ColdFrixion

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    With more neutral headphones(I use Sennheiser HD600's), the differences weren't night and day but they weren't necessarily subtle either, in my opinion.
     
  13. PaisleyWookie

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    Modeler X sounded a lot duller a lifeless compared to Modeler Y. Listening through Presonus Eris 5’s.
     

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