Reverb to start taxing buyers in multiple states

Discussion in 'Guitars in General' started by bigfoamfinger, Jul 12, 2019.

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  1. Gevalt

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    I think people are bitching about the increased cost of an already expensive service, not gov't regs, IMHO.
     
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  2. chrisjw5

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    Well, it's not really an increased cost. Sales tax is supposed to be paid on instrument sales. I'd suggest that they think of it more as 'well, I got a freebie for a while'.

    It's all in how you view it; life is too short to get annoyed by this.

    Guitars aren't dietary staples. Anything beyond one is a luxury.

    YMMV.
     
  3. Urobouros

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    :agree

    It was fun while it lasted but just another reason to practice instead of chasing deals ;)
     
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    pretty sure schools are primarily funded by local property taxes. hence why schools in bad areas are underfunded.
     
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  5. bigfoamfinger

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    Paying taxes on new guitars from makes sense. We've had it made for a while and it was only a matter of time. It's the used gear that appears to be included in this that is frustrating to people
     
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  6. bigfoamfinger

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    So sorry, didn't mean to trigger you guys. Edited to reflect that I'm only referring to used gear, sold individual to individual
     
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    move! (to a less tax state)
     
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    Agree. Here in Massachusetts, we pay tax on (new or used) goods bought from businesses. If the seller is an individual, tax is not collected. I did declare these out of state purchases when filing my annual taxes. Recently they began collecting for new goods from out of state businesses (eg when ordering from MF, SW, etc) at the time of purchase. Since I was already paying these taxes, it basically resulted in less to keep track of and ultimately itemize when filing.

    Taxing used goods sold via a marketplace when purchasing from an individual seems like it's taking it too far. The tax has been paid. Will the IRS or state officials be making appearances at Garage/Yard/Tag Sales next, enforcing new tax laws on sale of all used goods?
     
  9. InkblotNebula

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    You like having a road? How about the fire department? Hospitals? Ambulances? How about all the infrastructure that gets a pedal from one side of the country to your front door in less than 3 days. Those things used to be funded in part via sales tax, and then Amazon and the rest of the internet ****ed that all up.
     
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  10. Quantum Cat

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    If a roadless, uneducated society is what it takes to get cheap pedals then so be it.
     
  11. frankg11

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    before this get's locked.

    The old model was that a Business Nexus determined if the company charged sales tax on goods and services. Today with the large $$$$$ value of on-line sales, states have seen a reduction in sales tax. This is a shift from Brick and Mortar to interstate sales. Many states did not have any taxes on interstate for goods. Now with the drop in Brick and Mortar they are changing the law to tax interstate goods and services with the local tax. This has been evolving for many years, and now is expanding faster across the country.

    It's that they need to preserve that revenue stream not take more from that stream. However, you can be assured that taxes will rise as the sun rises in the east.
     
  12. lizardking

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    Um, nope.

    Not getting in trouble so I'm out, lol.
     
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  13. Jimmy R

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    I'm already paying 10.5 grand a year for property tax and 40% income tax, but by all means, please keep on making the logical fallacy that I don't like roads, children, hospitals, and firehouses. :rolleyes:
     
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    Yep, a whole lot like a colonoscopy without sedation. Yeah boy, it's all good ...
     
  15. bigfoamfinger

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    but but but how else are hospitals going to be built, if you don't pay tax on the used guitar you bought from Joe in Michigan on Reverb???
     
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  16. dmac in SC

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    Paying sales tax on new gear is one thing..paying tax on used stuff is double dipping..
     
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    It's a sales tax. New vs used is meaningless.
     
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    It's funny that you were wondering how long it would take, yet, in post #3 you mentioned government greed which is the exact opposite of the argument you quoted. So I would say you won for this thread.
     
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    Can you explain why new and used gear sales are different as it relates to sales tax? I honestly look forward to your answer.
    As others have pointed out but has failed to penetrate for you, the tax was always owed (use tax). There is now a concerted effort, based on some very interesting court cases, to put the onus on the seller or distribution channel to collect and remit the local sales tax for online sales.
    Ignorance is not bliss, it is just ignorance.
    If anyone is by chance a nerd about this stuff, the Air b and b type of systems are battling as to whether Air b and b is simply providing a service or are the seller as it relates to the party(they or the individual participants/owners) responsible for maintaining a license and remitting tax and whether the difference between what air b and b "charges" on their site and what gets paid to the property owners is taxable. Really interesting stuff as many of the local ordinances were written before online sales or short term rentals were even concepts.
     
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    Ha, as I understand it they will be collecting in almost every other state starting on 10/1. I feel a little bit bad for CME & all the other stores that have modeled at least 50% of their business online. They will probably be okay but a lot of the others won't make it.
     
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