Rick Beato's recent video on string gauge

Discussion in 'Effects, Pedals, Strings & Things' started by piloto117, Jan 24, 2020.

  1. piloto117

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    Hey there, I was watching this video just recently and I think it's a pretty cool test with interesting results, except that they forgot an important element which is pickup height! I was pretty amazed that they didn't factor this in, knowing how it really affects the sound. Now I understand that the differences are super minimal, but still there is a discrepancy that should be addressed in order to have a better understanding of the results of the test.
    Thanks, just wanted to get that off my mind!
     
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    So your point is that they should have adjusted the pickup height just slightly as they were trying new strings, that's fair.

    With that in mind, it would be interesting to test that on more than just a Les Paul. I know on my Gretsch Brian Setzer hot rod, I really liked the change going from 10's to 11's.
     
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    You think Beato prefers strings from a certain company?
     
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    mule train Gold Supporting Member

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    The pickup height shouldn’t matter, it is the same distance away from the string, regardless of the string diameter.
     
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    i think if you're going to do the experiment, you might as well use the most widely available strings on the market... i personally use d'addario nyxl for their long lasting brightness, but i do love the way slinkys play for the first 4 hours or so. i just hated having to change them after every performance.
     
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    Probable a endorsement deal I imagine...
     
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    a Larger string diameter, despite being the same distance apart, is a larger object within the magnetic field. It’s like being 1 inch from a candle, and 1 inch from a bonfire. No big deal - you’re still just 1 inch away right?
     
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    Glass Onion Toneful truth seeker. Gold Supporting Member

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    I agree pickup height would change the results but so would brand of string. Both need to be the same for a scientific comparison. Limit variables if you want valuable data.
     
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    Glass Onion Toneful truth seeker. Gold Supporting Member

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    I have been tempted lately to try .08s not by this video but just to see. Just not sure they would work on a tele. I think a tele needs at least .09s
     
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    Going from a .009 to a .010 is like the difference between being 1 inch from a candle and 1 inch from a slightly larger candle...

    A bonfire in this case would be more like the .135 I use for the low b on my bass.
     
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    Works for me,lol. Been using 9's for 40+ years...
     
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    Thanks for posting. I never would have thought there was that big of a difference. I think I'm going back to 9's.
     
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    It also depends on the amps ability to handle input signal. A large amp with big iron will not see as much of a difference. A small combo pushed to the edge will “fart out” with strings that are sending too much signal. But even on the big amp a difference will be noticeable. I have tried it over the years. But I have never played .08s. May be time to see if I have the control to make little strings sing.
     
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    Glass Onion Toneful truth seeker. Gold Supporting Member

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    One correlation I have noticed is the more gain the less the string mass has to have.

    Malcolm and Stevie had cleaner amps and used bigger strings to push them.

    the metal folks could get by with less mass in strings.

    fuzz pedals and pre amp gain made up for it.
    This is just and old dude (45) looking at the picture.
     
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    Not the most scientific experiment but interesting. I had used 10s for a decade or more and over a year ago slowly switched my 25.5 scale guitars (what I play 90% of the time) to 9s. I couldn't be happier. I think my tone is as good as or better than before and I'm playing better because my left hand is more relaxed and I'm not fighting the strings. I never realized how much the 10s were limiting my playing because of the added tension in my hands.

    Maybe I'll give 8s a try. It's a cheap experiment.
     
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    Glass Onion Toneful truth seeker. Gold Supporting Member

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    It is all an amalgam of components.
    Find what works is the message
     
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    I think it really depends on the tone you are going for. My basic sound is clean & I often play clean leads as well. If I need a brighter sound for overdrive, I just EQ the pedal to reflect that. I’ve played 10’s for a good 25 years because any gauge above or below that, I have a tendency to break when playing aggressively live. 10’s, for whatever reason, are the perfect tension for my playing style.
     
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    Isn't that the whole point of the test though?
     
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    9-42 GHS Boomers on everything I use, except the baritone.
     
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    I thought that was pretty cool. Good to know. Its something to explore. Made a much bigger difference than what I thought it was going to.
     
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