Robben Ford's FUSION style: help!

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  1. YOGA64

    YOGA64 Member

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    Hi, I'd like to get learning the way he was playing fusion in the late 70's, and his DVDs don't really get into that style.
    He was playing over some chord changes that are quite complicated to my ears, in a very personal way, not like a trad Jazz player would, it seems to me..........:huh

    Can anybody help me, books, videos etc.?

    Thanks for your help!
     
  2. craigoslo

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    Maybe you could post a youtube link of the style you are after?
     
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    Have you tried his DVD/book called "Blues and Beyond?".
    It covers in-depth lessons for Revelation, I ain't got nothin but the Blues, use of diminished scale and other great stuff besides his Blues-approach. The essential Ford-style lesson for me.
     
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    Have you transcribed any of this stuff? I'd start there. See what you can take from it and then track down a DVD if you need to.
     
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    This and the RF Hotline series book/cd that was distributed by REH.
     
  7. Jeremy_Green

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    Bang on !!!

    I have learned FAR more over the years by doing the work as opposed to having it delivered to me via a book or DVD. MOST people avoid doing the work. That is why MOST people can't play the way they'd would like to. Books and DVDs can be very helpful, not slamming that at all. But doing it yourself will yield far more fruit.. Least it has for me.
     
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    Two words...

    Chuck D'Aloia

    Check out his Blues with Brains stuff. He also does one on one Skype lessons. Chuck is exactly in that style. Every bit the jazz blues fusion player that RF is. Awesome teacher and you can have him one on one.



     
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    Hmm, his use of the diminished 1/2 whole scale is one of his popular "fusion" guitar sounds, very popular at the time you suggested ,'78. I think his books and videos cover that sound pretty well.

    This here is a lick I often heard Robben play in those early days, it became a signature lick of his
    so I transcribed a particularly juicy version from GIT w/ Don Mock, '82
    + means tie. All even 8ths, On the Robben scale of one to ten, this is a 10

    F7#9
    ------------------ll-10------------------------ll
    ------------------ll----11-----13--10----11+11-ll
    ------------10----ll--------12--------10-------ll
    ------12-------12-ll---------------------------ll
    ---------13-------ll---------------------------ll
    -9-10-------------ll---------------------------ll

    --------------------------ll------------------ll
    --------10+10---------8+8-ll------6-----------ll
    -12------------10---------ll-8------7-----8-5-ll
    ----13-------------12-----ll---10-----8-------ll
    --------------------------ll------------8-----ll
    --------------------------ll------------------ll

    -------------------ll-----------------ll-----------------ll--
    -------------------ll-----------------ll-----------------ll--
    ------7-------5----ll-----------------ll-----------------ll--
    -7------8-5------7-ll-----5-8-7---5---ll-----------------ll--
    ---8--------6------ll-8-5-------8---6-ll-8-8-8-8-8-8-8-8-ll-8
    -------------------ll-----------------ll-----------------ll--
     
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  11. binge

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    Steve Khan did a very nice transcription of Robben Ford's solo over the Naima changes.

    Transcription here.

    Analysis here.
     
  12. YOGA64

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    Thanks everyone!!!!
     
  13. TimSt.L

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    We used to play "how deep in the blues" and out other guitarist was doing most of the leads while I did the crazy long chord progression under them. He nailed the tone and feel of the song.
    The way my other guitarist was getting alot of his tone was by hybrid picking and sometimes didnt use a pick at all on that song.
     
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    yes! chuck is an equally amazing musician, teacher and human. check him out!
     
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    I posted a few items on my blog on Robben Ford including a video lesson.
    http:

    Enjoy.

    A few transcriptions also!! TABS
     
  16. Goerman

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    I understand Robben is coming out with a new course on True Fire.
     
  17. YOGA64

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    Cool, about Fusion style playing?
     
  18. Goerman

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    I'm not sure of the focus of the course (sounds like its in the development phase). Here's a link..
     
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  20. GtrWiz

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    I ordered the Diminished scale from I to IV lesson. It was really basic and he covered it much better on Blues & Beyond. I was pretty disappointed with it.
     

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