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Same speaker model, Same impendance = slightly Different sound?

ADOLF1612

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... for say, a 2x12 combo?

Hey All, coming down to your wisdom with a question bouncing in my mind: should that happen?

I don't know if I'm just noticing it, but yesterday I went to a rehersal for the first time with my new amp, played around 3.5 to 4 out of 10 on volume, and at 5 for like a minute just for testing, nothing hard actually, sounded really great and loud, but today as I recovered my hearing (xD) and got to play guitar again I noticed a slight difference in the sound of the speakers, even tryed to record them with something ( a cellphone) and still got a difference, being one is a tiny bit more scooped and the another one has a bit more mids, and they're the exact same thing? apart from that seems that I can't find any other phenomena with them apart from sounding really good

Can't find much info on it, I know there's a slight difference in same speakers-different ohms situation, but what about identical speakers in every aspect?

Speakers: Celestion G12P-80 Seventy 80, came stock with the amp, been with me since October

BTW they pretty much just did break in cause is the first time I played the amp at that volume

Should that happen to any speakers due to manufacturing and such? or did something gone wrong with them? any special care I should take when playing loud? even if it'll always be less tha half the amp's volume (higher than that is getting miced), and the speakers are rated higher in power than the amp?

Thanks Beforehand everyone :D
 

Promit

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I read a recording guide that mentioned that one speaker in a cab will always sound best.
 

ADOLF1612

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Thanks for your replies :)

Seems like it? one broken in and the another not totally there yet? (or did you mean broken as in "throw it away"? took a flashlight at the cones in the front and the back and didn't see any rips or anything, looking new to me)

The difference is so subtle that to hear it I have to come and pretty much stick my ear to the grill cloth xD (or doing some recording on each speaker tells it out too), standing like a 1.5ft and I can't hear it anymore

thought that it (the difference) would be there just because of naturally being 2 speakers (as in 2 apparently identical things never being Exactly the same), even being the same model and everything, but perhaps they should even out after some more playing?

And BTW how do I know which is Broken in and which isn't? left one is the more middy one, and right the more scoopy/bit clearer one

Having a little headache over this just 'cause is my first multi-speaker amp experience in general xD, and just getting into gigging, hoping I'm not doing any harm to it

Again, Thanks beforehand :D
 

DaveKS

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Yea I meant not broken in the same. Just think of it as a 2-way speaker. :bonk

Thanks for your replies :)

Seems like it? one broken in and the another not totally there yet? (or did you mean broken as in "throw it away"? took a flashlight at the cones in the front and the back and didn't see any rips or anything, looking new to me)

The difference is so subtle that to hear it I have to come and pretty much stick my ear to the grill cloth xD (or doing some recording on each speaker tells it out too), standing like a 1.5ft and I can't hear it anymore

thought that it (the difference) would be there just because of naturally being 2 speakers (as in 2 apparently identical things never being Exactly the same), even being the same model and everything, but perhaps they should even out after some more playing?

And BTW how do I know which is Broken in and which isn't? left one is the more middy one, and right the more scoopy/bit clearer one

Having a little headache over this just 'cause is my first multi-speaker amp experience in general xD, and just getting into gigging, hoping I'm not doing any harm to it

Again, Thanks beforehand :D
 

ADOLF1612

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Again thanks for your replies :D

Then there's nothing bad to worry about :bonk, as of now they seem to be evening out already, been playing some more and also noticed that before it had some top end harshness that it doesn't now, and as I've read that would be part of the result of breaking them in, explaining why it's sounding better than before xD, hopefully on next rehersal it'll be even better

Thanks for your help!, gotta keep rocking then :D
 

Promit

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Do you mean a 1x12 will sound better than a 2x12?
No. I mean that if you are recording a 2x12 or 4x12, one of those speakers will stand out as a better choice to mic up than the others. That is what it said, anyway.
 

Silent Sound

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Yeah, no two speaker ever sound exactly alike. Two speakers of the same make, model, and year should sound very similar, but never identical. In many studios they'll have their house cabs with a mark on the grill cloth denoting which speaker sounds best and where to mic that speaker for the best results.
 






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