Scooped super reverb sound from a 1x12?

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  1. chrisalecia

    chrisalecia Member

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    Every clip I listen to that has "that tone" I'm after ends up being a Stratocaster into a Fender Blackface Super Reverb. I love that scooped midrange tone that it produces for blues improvisation. But a super is wwaayyy to big for home use or a small blues jam session.

    So the question is - Is it possible to get that tone from a 1x12 type combo?
     
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    You have great tone ears !
    Closest is old Vibrolux, tho 2-10". Hot Rod or Blues Deluxe may work.
    EV speakers can help, so can vintage voiced low-gain pickups.
    The BEST pedal for this tone is (IMHO) is Keeley modded Blues Driver.
     
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    wouldn't a Deluxe Reverb do that pretty well?
     
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    :agree Deluxe Reverb!
     
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    DR does it pretty well though I haven't played a non-reissue DR. I did have the opportunity to plug into a silverface SR. Put it on 5, strummed a few chords/notes and said s*#t! - that's it! Must be the 6L6's and/or speaker configuration. Seems size does matter!

    So I guess I answered my own question......:bonk
     
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    i think Allen offers some BF circuit amps that have the option to use a few different power tubes. i'll bet anything he has a 1x12 with bigger iron and takes 6L6. get just the right heavey magnet bright speaker and you might be surprised how close you can get.
     
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    Redplate!

    There really are quite a few options for what you're talking, but just so you know nothing sounds like a Super Reverb cranked...of course if you can't crank it then what's the point.
     
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    I think a big part of that sound (for me) is the 4x10 speakers...I play a tweed bassman which doesn't sound completely different when played clean. I think it sounds amazing at low home volumes and takes pedals well too.

    I actually think that my bassman with 4x10's sounds a lot better at low volumes than a lower wattage amp through a 1x12 at low volumes. They're both way too loud to turn up at home anyway, and those 4x10's give it a nice full sound that's very 3D and fills the room, even when its not really loud.

    I say just get the Super and be done with it!
     
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    Agree with Greaser... the four 10's are critical. I've not heard it duplicated with even 2 tens. Can a twelve get close enough to offset the weight? Maybe, but it depends on the 12. Most of the 12's I have won't do it.
     
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    I love my early 90's Concert with one 12" speaker. Two 6l6's and about 7-10 preamp tubes. It has a push pull on the clean channel volume knob. It's labelled as cut. I believe it scoops the mids in an amazing way. I have a WGS G12C in mine.

    Here is what it looks like.

    http://www.adverts.ie/power-amplifiers/fender-concert-112/560350
     
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    The fullness of the 4 10's is one thing I forgot to consider....
     
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    4x10s running at 2 ohms, nothing else will sound quite like it. Closest would probably be a Vibrolux Reverb but you'd miss some low end and headroom. 1x12s can sound great but not the same...Supers are magic amps! Get a good old one and you won't believe how good they sound...
     
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    Kendrick So-lo 7....close your eyes and you are in Super-land...
     
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    Fender hot rod deluxe with modded blues driver or a boss od-3 will get you 97% of the way. Totally under-rated setup that sounds excellent and is cheap too.
     
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    Mmm, I agree with most of that but not quite all of it. It's a good setup especially for the money that will work for many people no problem but I put my '71 Super next to my friends Hot Rod Deville that even has the 4x10s and it wasn't even close really. Not that the Hot Rod didn't sound good, it did, especially the cleans. But the old Super Reverb was in a totally different league, just MHO of course.
     
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    Agreed, great little amp in my experience.
     
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    Tone King Imperial will get you the tone...but will be too loud for home use.
     
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    I've had many Fender amps in my time and nothing sounds quite like a good SuperReverb. A 2-10 amp won't be the same nor will a 1-12 or 2-12. When you have that special tone in your head only one amp will do, the SuperReverb! IMO the greatest Fender amp ever made.
     
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    I think you're right. We (at least me) sometimes get in denial because an older vintage amp isn't readily available or available at a reasonable price or is too big/heavy to lug around. So we will try several "other" viable options only to learn that nothing quite does it like the original.
     

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