Serious Shoulder Injury (might never play again)

Discussion in 'Guitars in General' started by Playloudd308, Sep 10, 2019 at 10:05 PM.

Should I agree to Surgery

  1. Surgery

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  2. No Surgery

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  1. Playloudd308

    Playloudd308 Supporting Member

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    Really weighing my options to see where to go from here.

    Hurt at work, kept going through about half the day until I couldn’t take the pain anymore. Went to ER and they said it was serious and sent me to an Ortho Surgeon.

    He says without surgery I’ll have about a 20% chance of playing again. (In the same way). The injury affected the pronation and supponation of my hand/wrist forearm.

    I suppose a change in technique would be absolutely necessary if it doesn’t heal properly. Surgery has its own set of risks and he said I WOULD loose mobility but it would be impossible to say how much will be lost without actually moving forward with the surgery.

    I do not play out much any more and have never relied on it as a source of income. I manage a few UPS stores, so income will be affected either way.

    Aside from God and my family, music is my life. It is one of the most pure connections I have ever had, and I do not remember a time I didn’t play. Started at 6 years old and I am now 30. Never would I have imagined life without that part of myself.

    In jest:

    1.) No surgery with high chance I will not be able to play anymore. If I do it this way recovery (very unlikely) could be 100%

    2.) Surgery with a definite loss of mobility (the extent of which will be unknown until they are done with the surgery)

    Worst thing of all is one of my more troublesome employees lied to the owner by saying I came in complaining of shoulder pains yesterday morning (before accident).
    I was literally just moving a roll of engineering bond paper (blueprints and wide format). It is quite heavy, around 70lbs but there is no discernible fall or something to show the immediate moment it happened. Other than hearing a pop when lifting the roll, and feeling my hand go numb and tingly, there wasn’t much to see on the cameras.

    I should have went home immediately but we just lost our best employee, and are quite short handed. I couldn’t leave my guys until some other stuff was taken care of. Now I am definitely regretting my decision.

    What would YOU do if you were in the same situation?
     
  2. noley

    noley Frequently Mistaken for Fabio Silver Supporting Member

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    I'd use my good arm and smack that troublesome employee.

    Seriously, what the heck is wrong with people?
     
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    I would get a second and maybe even third opinion. A lot of ways to tackle something like this and I wouldn’t rush to a decision. Best of luck finding the best option!
     
  4. MkIII Renegade

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    Music is very important to me, and one of the things I do best. I would probably opt for surgery, although I'd get at least 3 opinions from specialists....
     
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    My good arm and quite possibly a pipe wrench!
     
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  6. woof*

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    Report it to your employer.
    See another doctor and get a second opinion.
    Pray for guidance.
    If it were me, after a few medical opinions I’d go with the surgery.
     
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  7. circle_o_5ths

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    Do research into doctors who operate on local sports stars, get their opinion.
     
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    I'm sorry to hear about your situation and hope you recover 100%. That said, I'd probably seek a second opinion and go from there. Discuss the options with your doctor(s) and move forward with the option that provides the best risk/reward in your personal opinion. We can't tell you whether or not to have surgery; that's your decision based on the guidance of your medical professional(s). Please don't do what a forum poll says.
     
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    While it didn’t affect my playing, I had a major knee surgery a few years ago. It was worth it considering that it was a similar sort of thing in that I was all but guaranteed issues if I didn’t do it. In the end, my knee will never be the same but I’m in much better shape than had I opted not to do it.
     
  10. Playloudd308

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    She is very good at being different people depending on who she is interacting with. I have had several talks with her about her attitude toward customers and work in general to no avail.

    Unfortunately, she is good at playing different people. I have managed the same UPS stores for about 12 years and have seen many people come and go. This girl just so happens to have the wool pulled over the owners eyes.

    We have been dealing with hospitals and doctors for about 5 years. My son has severe hemophilia with a high inhibitor, we became experts on second opinions, speaking up, and asking questions. Of the two surgeons recommended by my sons doctors at St Jude’s, the discussion was pretty similar. The initial doctor at the ER sounded a bit more hopeful, but that is why there are specialists. I may try one more just for triple confirmation.

    It only happened yesterday, but I feel like I have been all braced up for too long!
     
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  11. RicardoDiazHimself

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    Yup. Surgery aint a walk in the park and it's not a 100% recovery most of the time. I know its not common in the US, but physical therapy DOES work. The US health system only considers surgery or nothing. I ripped my forearm tendons and it took a whole year of therapy, but im perfectly fine now after a couple years. I lift weights and play like I used to before. But it does take effort on your part.
    A friend of mine screwed his knee. His doctor dad took him to therapy first, cause he told him surgery aint easy, and he's good now. Try it first. You can get surgery later, if you dont feel better, as long as you dont hurt yourself anymore.

    On another story: A friend of mine broke his neck doing gymnastics and was quadriplegic for one or 2 years. With therapy, he regained motion and came back to doing gymnastics.
     
  12. Playloudd308

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    Probably the best advice you could give. Honestly this post is more about venting and getting everything off my chest.

    Family while, of course having your best interests, definitely have a strong bias one way or another. My wife just doesn’t understand the dilemma. It is always nice to just let go and talk about things. As a philosophy graduate, I thrive on other people’s perspectives. It is very interesting to see how and why people do things even if it doesn’t line up with my decisions or opinions. And you can ALWAYS learn something. Different ways of looking at it could give me a fresh mind to make a more informed, or at least confident decision.

    I am definitely leaning one way. But, I am obviously too involved to make a completely objective and rational decision.
     
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    That is something else indeed. And takes strong will power. My first degree was kinesiology and decided it was far too depressing. Went back to school for a completely useless degree but came out a better person for it.
     
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  14. noley

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    Did that first surgeon give you a diagnosis?

    I have been getting all kinds of treatment recommendations about my foot from orthopedic surgeons (3) and physical therapists (2) but not one of them has actually diagnosed the problem.

    No diagnosis, no surgery.
     
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    I've dealt with ortho doctors on a number of occasions. I've never met one that would consider surgery without recommending PT first if that was at all practical.

    That being said, my own experience with PT hasn't been as good as yours.

    Danny W.
     
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    Yes, the diagnosis matched with both Surgeons and the ER doctor. I have had shoulder issues going back to a dislocation/hyperextension in the 7th grade. No surgery for that one but my tendons and most of the muscles are more loose than average. I have had 4 dislocations since the initial one and each has done a little more damage than the last. This time, subluxation caused a tear.
     
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    To clarify, none of the Docs recommended surgery. I've been offered injections, a rigid cast for immobilization, and air boots. But this isn't about me and I only brought up the question of an actual DX because I haven't got one. Just encouraging the OP to seek as many opinions as practical before moving forward. Including PT... Good Luck OP!
     
  18. 9fingers

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    Surgeons do surgery. That is their world. Have a great physical therapist, chiropractor, or sports medicine person take a look at it. I have a massage therapist who "fixes" things on me surgeons would do surgery for. I'm not saying don't do surgery- it might be what you need (operative word is "might"). There are other forms of healing that can be quite successful.
    If you go to different surgeons for opinions you are still limiting your inquiry to that field. Try some other disciplines as well.
     
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  19. noley

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    We were typing at the same time!

    Severe/long term ligament laxity is unfortunately tough to tighten up without a sugical intervention. At your age and with a history of shoulder trouble, along with 3 opinions and actual diagnoses you might as well get it knocked out now and start rehabbing it. My .02.
     
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    If all you got's a hammer; the whole world looks like a nail, kinda thing.
     

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