SG '61 Reissue -- Slight Gap in Neck Joint?

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  1. shaps6

    shaps6 Member

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    I just got an SG 61 Reissue (Gibson USA model) and I decided to take a look at what the neck joint looks like, when I noticed this. Is this a gap in the neck joint?

    The guitar resonates really well unplugged and plays well, so I'm just trying to figure out what's going on here.

    Does the guitar play well despite shoddy workmanship? Or is this not such a big deal?

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  2. keefsdad

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    That is normal.
     
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  3. shaps6

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    What is it?

    Also, do these same gaps exist on Custom Shop models?
     
  4. OiRogers

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    If you watch videos of the manufacture, the necks are hand fit... looks like someone took a bit too much off the top. :p

    If it plays well, resonates well and holds tune in a stable manner... I wouldn't worry about it. My 1977 SG looks similar if you pull the neck pickup and look in the cutout, there is a bit of a gap on the left (bass) side, but the neck is solid and stable. My 2016 SG also has some evidence of being hand fit, but is much tighter fit than the '77 and is breaking in nicely.
     
  5. shaps6

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    haha, does that mean that someone just chiseled out at the top, but that there's something deeper in that's glued to the body? I just don't know how what's holding it in
     
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    Spackle?
     
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    Also, anyone know what that piece of plastic that I removed is called? Wondering where I can buy a replacement
     
  9. Mr. Bertha

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    Beware inflammatory responses, op.
     
  10. OiRogers

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    If you watch the videos of Gibsons factory, they do use a chisel to trim necks to fit the pockets better.... my guess is that the chisel wasn't exactly flat when used to trim your (or either of my) necks. My older SG is rapidly closing on it's 40th birthday (December of 1977 manufacture) and it is as solid as you could as for.

    Slight imperfections are to be expected in hand fitting, especially when it's in a spot expected to be covered later.
     
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    It's not unusual. But ideally you want a tight fit - all surfaces of a tenon and slot in tight contact with each other like two puzzle pieces. Someone at Gibson took too much wood off. I personally don't like neck joints, bolt or set, with gaps that you can slide a business card or coin into, but I have played guitars that do, and they were still acceptable instruments.
     
  12. AustinIsPresent

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    Y'all would be shocked if you found out how real Flamenco guitars are assembled. Some dodgy stuff under the hood on those, and cost $10k+ !
     
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    That's totally normal. Put the plastic back over it and rock.
     
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    It’s a bit sloppy work but it won’t make any difference as there is still plenty of tightly fitted areas holding the neck in place.
     
  15. hunter

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    Beware apologists.

    I would probably go years without taking the pickguard off unless something broke so probably OK by me since I wouldn't see it and I am pretty sure I'd never hear it. Sloppy craftsmanship? Undeniably. If you could see how poorly some of these are glued on the underside (there are pics of a disassembles historic floating around), you might have pause to see the side is also poorly joined. But as long as you have as much contact area as the cross section area of the tenon, the strength of the join essentially won't be compromised (realize this is not a perfect comparison, just an approximation).

    hunter
     
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  16. hunter

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    Flamenco guitars are typically Spanish foot design. Essentially nothing in common with the Gibson neck join design. And it is pretty hard to find a $10K+ flamenco!

    hunter
     
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    That's why Gibson installs a plastic tenon cover in that area. Even when the wood surfaces are completely flush, the grains mismatch.
     
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    The Pickguard?
     
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    It would be on a Standard. He means the tenon cover, if it's a 61RI.
     
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