SG upgrades

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  1. Teleking

    Teleking Supporting Member

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    Bought some Classic 57s I'm going to switch out my pickups for. I know people change all kinds of wiring,pots, etc.

    What do most people do with SGs? Keep in mind that this needs to work with Classic 57s. I know how the Classic 57s sound as they're in my 61 SG reissue. I definitely prefer those pickups to the 490/498 sound.

    So, before I take it to my guitar tech, anything else I should consider upgrading and what will that do for the sound?

    Thanks
     
  2. morglan

    morglan Supporting Member

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    How old is your SG? The newer Gibsons can come with 300k pots. I always switch mine out for 500K pots, and switch it to 50's style wiring. (That doesn't mean that you have to make those changes, I just prefer mine that way.)
     
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  3. Teleking

    Teleking Supporting Member

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    This is a 97 SG special.
     
  4. sg~guy

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    -1k volume pots-
    -by pass both tone controls-
    -if it has the PCB harness remove the entire tone sucking thing-
    -locking grotoh or sprez tuners-

    -then rock that biatch!!
     
  5. Whiskeyrebel

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    1K? Not even high enough for active pickups. 1 meg maybe?
     
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  6. sg~guy

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    -yup!!-

    -thanx for pointing that out-
     
  7. Tim Plains

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    I have five SGs. There's a link in my sig if you want see the mods each has.
     
  8. BADHAK

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    If you have 300k pots then upgrade to 500k to judge the 57's fairly.
    Pretty soon I'm gonna replace the 490 498's in my 05 SG Std for some Pearly Gates. The SD's sound great in my Special.
     
  9. Teleking

    Teleking Supporting Member

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    So 500K pots? Any other suggestions?
     
  10. GibSG

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    On your 1997 SG no electronic upgrade is necessary . May be Audio PIO capacitors, no more.

    Do you have pictures ?
     
  11. rummy

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    50s wiring, if you prefer, and make sure the pots are 500k.
     
  12. Teleking

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    How does one tell if they're 500 pots or 300 pots?
     
  13. morglan

    morglan Supporting Member

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    The pot value should be stamped right on the back of the pot. If you aren't sure, snap a pic and post it on here and we can let you know.
     
  14. HoboMan

    HoboMan Silver Supporting Member

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    Are your 57s two or four conductor?

    I used to have an SG with four conductor 57s and I installed Duncan Triple Shot Mounting Rings to give me the ultimate maximum amount of series/parallel/coil splitting options.
    Lots of tones out of that guitar.

    [​IMG]
     
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  15. GMGM

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    I second the Tripleshot suggestion. I haven't put them in my SG (yet), but it is imminent. Tripleshot allows each pickup to split to either coil, or select between humbucker/parallel wiring (within the pickup itself). So I'll tripleshot for each pickup, then I'll add a phase switch in one of the push pull pots. I tend to prefer single volume/tone controls, so I'm also curious about using push-pull switches to toggle between a set of 250k V/T controls (when pups are used as single coils), and then 500k V/T when humbucking.

    I have a 2015 SG Standard with 300k pots. They sounds great in single coil mode (I'm 90% a "single coil kind of guy"). But the 300k are a little dull in humbucker mode. So I'll probably drop in 500k pots - as I'm committed to becoming a "humbucker kind of guy".

    I might swap the pups too, as I want to be able to restore it to original (because, you know, these 2015 models are so popular that they will be sought after for many decades to come, lol).

    Alternately - if you don't dig the Tripleshot - then you can also do the 21-sound / Jimmy Page wiring for more flexibility.

    Also, when I wear down the frets, I'm going to have my luthier build a fretboard extension so I can have 24 frets. This guitar is otherwise perfect, except for being shortchanged on those two extra frets.
     
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  16. sg~guy

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    put your ohm meter on the center and one of the outer tabs,.. turn the pot,.. the ohm reading will be at 100% off
     
  17. Whiskeyrebel

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    Only with the pickup disconnected from the pot. Otherwise the meter will read the lower DC resistance of the pickup.
     
  18. sg~guy

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    -thought that was obvious-(actually everything disconnected from the pot)-

    -x-2-in one thread whiskey rebel-
     

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