Shiva FX Loop question

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  1. Nov 11, 2003 #1
    kro

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    Could someone explain this to me in English.

    http://www.bogneramplification.com/ShivaFXcablePic.gif

    I want to run a flanger and whammy pedal through the fx loop. Do I need to do the setup in the diagram with the special cable or can I just use the return/send inputs?
     
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  2. Nov 13, 2003 #2
    Hipster Dofus

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    Just Try it. I have not had luck with the Cable and stompboxes.
    But pedals are all diff.
     
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  3. Nov 13, 2003 #3
    bullfrogblues

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    Kro, I made one of the "ducking" cables a few weeks ago, and it works great in the loop. It depends on whether you are using pedals or a rack on which one you build. It's very easy to do, but I now have 3 more cables to deal with. I didn't try using the effects loop without the cable for fear of ruining something.
    The instructions are pretty straight-forward, build it exactly like it says. You can get the resistors at Radio Shack for pretty cheap.
    Allan.
     
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  4. Nov 13, 2003 #4
    OneMileWish

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    Hey allan, do you have the schematics for building the cable?

    Dan.
     
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  5. Nov 13, 2003 #5
    bullfrogblues

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    Hey Dan, I do, but it's easier to get it off the Bogner website. Here's the link.
    Allan.Effects Cable Schematic
     
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  6. Nov 15, 2003 #6
    myfatherfreddy

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    If anyone wants one made,shoot me an email.I've made them and they work great.
     
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  7. Nov 15, 2003 #7
    OneMileWish

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    You rock, Allan, thanks! Will make one soon and see how it works with my Soldano's FX loop :D

    Dan.
     
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  8. Nov 15, 2003 #8
    myfatherfreddy

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    If you are making one for a different amp,you may have to experiment with different resistor values.
     
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  9. Nov 15, 2003 #9
    bullfrogblues

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    Very good point. Also, check with the manufacturer, you may not need that type cable with other amps. I was under the impression that this was only due to the configuration of the effects loop in the Bogner, may not be the same for other amps.
    Allan.
     
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  10. Nov 15, 2003 #10
    myfatherfreddy

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    You are correct that this particular schematic is for the Shiva but there are other amps that have a really hot signal going through the "send" on their loops.This tends to drive the fx in it too hard.What you need to find out is how hot that signal is and place the correct resistor values in the cable.Others have their amps modded with a volume control for the fx send.
     
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  11. Nov 15, 2003 #11
    OneMileWish

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    Good point, sir!

    The Soldano's level is really hot...soldering and cable making is nothing new to me, I'll just keep messing around until I hit something I like ;) ;)

    Dan.
     
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