Should i trade my KOT for a TIM?

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  1. yawiney

    yawiney Member

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    So i've had the KOT (regular gain, version 4, serial 1476) for years and didn't like it for lead and havn't been doing too many gigs where i could leave it on all the time for the extra amp break up rythym sound that i do love about the pedal. It's never been on my board and only gone to one gig because i couldn't justify taking it out when i don't know if i will sell.

    That being said, after putting it on reverb i've used it at home rehearsals for a more rock'nroll type gig and love what it does for rythym going in to my Deluxe reverb re-issue. What i don't like about using it for lead is this "scratchy" or "dry"(not dry vs wet with effects) kind of sound. Never played a TIM.
    My question is:
    Will a TIM get me closer to having that nice dirty boost i love on the red channel of the KOT and also be able to get a lead sound i like? Warm like the KOT but smoother? Also i see TIM's for alot cheaper.??
     
  2. zosozep7

    zosozep7 Gold Supporting Member

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    The Tim was made for Marshalls. Not that they sound bad thru Fenders though. If your using a Fender black or silver face i would say your pedal should be the KoT.
     
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    I disagree with the whole "Tim was made for Marshalls" idea. Maybe because it doesn't have a mid range bump like a tube screamer, so people don't think it'll work on a blackface circuit. I actually prefer the Timmy over the tube screamer through my deluxe reverb. It sounds awesome and doesn't get lost in the mix. So chewy sounding!
     
  5. bjfly17

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    Have you considered sending it back to analogman to get high gain on one or both channels?
     
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    You think that would make it work for my lead taste and still keep the warm light OD boost I like for crunchy rythym?
     
  7. PurpleJesus

    PurpleJesus Gold Supporting Member Silver Supporting Member

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    Heard a Tim through a Bruno Cowtipper (fender deluxe on steroids) sounded incredible. Want one for my Princeton.
     
  8. ToneKing

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    I've owned both, still have the KOT. Mine is the high gain one, but it doesn't have a lot of gain. Great pedal, it just works in a live format. I run mine in front of an SD9 and Klon. Sounds good in front of my plexi and my buster.

    Ultimately you've got to decide.
     
  9. goodhonk

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    Have you adjusted the dipswitches on the kot?
     
  10. lostpoet2

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    I would sell the KOT and then buy a POT and a Timmy. Then you will have the best of both.
     
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    email AnalogMike and ask
     
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    Just buy a Timmy. They are very reasonable. Try them both together on your board. Sell the one you don't like, or keep both.
     
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    This is a good question.

    If you haven't done yet try switching the red side to dist.
     
  14. yawiney

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    ^I tried that. Still not doing it for me for lead. The only way I can describe it is too scratchy/dry-sounding like a pedal not an amp. i know it is a pedal but....
    I do really love leaving it on for rhythm on more rock type of stuff, it just seems like something worth so much $ should be able to do both for me. I havn't played a TIM or a Timmy. The TIM +100$ is the offer I got, but until I get to try a TIM I will keep my KOT.
    POT +Timmy wouldn't take up much more board space though...
     
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    Sorry but what does "chewy" sound like?
     
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    I have to say that what works in the practice room isn't always best in live situations. My KoT (high gain red side) didn't seem stellar in my studio, though I love what it does live. It's a very clear sounding unit - much more so than other od pedals.

    I agree with the suggestion to have the high gain mod added. I'd also recommend playing with the tone controls on the pedal, your amp and the guitar.
     
  17. yawiney

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    ^ True that. Iv'e almost taken it out the last few gigs just to feel it in a live situation before mabey selling, but since it's worth so much I've been afraid to scratch it, get it dirty ect..

    Also, only 1 of the last 5 gigs i've had would have given me a chance to really use it. The next 2 definately won't either.
    Mabey I'll take it out to a jam session.
    I do really love it for light OD rhythm. At home i've been running it 1st before my Keeley TS9. Not loving the 2 together that way. Mabey I should try it reversed??
    Mostly using one or the other. I like it as much as the modded TS9 for lead and mabey a little more but neither really does what i'm looking for.
    Also, i like it more with my LP than the Strats.
    I'll try messing with the guitar controls with it on. Havn't done that much.
    Thanks for the help here.
     
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    I love the KOT > Timmy tandem. The smooth crunchy rhythm from the KOT and the slight grit (or "chewiness") for leads from the Timmy.

    The other way Timmy > KOT (gritty crunch + smooth leads) works as well; just depends on which way you want to play.
     
  19. yawiney

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    Seems like more mentions of the Timmy than TIM. Mabey I should try one with the KOT. Board space is an issue too though....Sent an email to Paul C. for a list of dealers in the LA area so i can try one (or both). From what I've read here about the Barber GC, I may have to try it as well.
     
  20. theanalogdream

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    Both pedals work VERY nicely together... for what it's worth. I'd recommend having both!
     

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