I would love to show at my local mom a pop store. Unfortunately they only carry Squire starter packs these days.
Vir autem stultus non animadverto est ad CircumUp until page 11 this was a great thread. Then, as it seems to happen more and more lately, the thread gets derailed, and always because of the same reason, or better, the same member.
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I totally see and respect your side of the argument. Sometimes trying out a guitar or amp in person is worth it (especially if the shop is near by.) I have received merchandise damaged by both Fed-Ex and UPS, and many times something just was not a good fit which I could have realized had I purchased it locally. Pros and Cons to both sides of this!Can you get what I want in stock this week? Will you give me 15-20% off MAP? Do you offer free home delivery?
And even if you can answer yes to all of these, if I have to take time out of my workday to stop at your store or call during business hours to ask you this, I'm likely not going to.
Not trying to be a jerk. But this is what you're up against. What extra service could you possibly provide that would make me want to come to your store for purchase, instead of off MF website, late in the evening, from the comfort of my couch?
Check the about page...I'm REALLY confused. I thought Umanov's legendary store was closed, for good.
Yes there are. My point is not to $hi+ on local music retailers. Far from it. Just to point out the realities of the new economy, warts and all.I totally see and respect your side of the argument. Sometimes trying out a guitar or amp in person is worth it (especially if the shop is near by.) I have received merchandise damaged by both Fed-Ex and UPS, and many times something just was not a good fit which I could have realized had I purchased it locally. Pros and Cons to both sides of this!
I've run into this too.I would love to show at my local mom a pop store. Unfortunately they only carry Squire starter packs these days.
Why buy from mom & pop "NOW"?After seeing all these NGD threads, should we be buying gear from the mom and pop stores to keep them from going under. Sure they might not have every model, color or free shipping... but it might help them stay afloat
Someone needs to buy this cool LP DC from Matt Umanov:
That's amazing.... 200,000 people and no guitar store???I'm as guilty as anyone, because they were located a few blocks from my house, so I'd go there all the time. But GC moved into my town, drove every single electric guitar store out of business (one acoustic-only shop survived), and then left. Now there are no stores in my town of 200,000+ people.
I agree with you - not cool to ask to retailer to special order a product and then return it. But, if I could try it there, in stock, I much rather do that and support the local retailer.Yes there are. My point is not to $hi+ on local music retailers. Far from it. Just to point out the realities of the new economy, warts and all.
Shipping issues aside, most large online retailers have 45 day no-ask return. That's hard to compete with.
While I agree it's best to try something out before buying, I also can see it from the small retailer's POV. It can be really nice for them to special order something they don't have, essentially allowing the customer to try out first (maybe). But it's also a lot to ask the store as they are taking on the extra risk of possible return and inability to resell at new cost. As much as I harp on poor customer skills, I don't feel its right to ask a small company to do this. And even if they are willing to take on this risk, I don't feel right exploiting that and risking making a bad relationship with a local retailer. All this added on to the extra inconvenience of actually finding time to visit a store during business hours, and it ain't worth it to me. I can avoid the drama and wait, and just order it online with a 45 day no-ask return.
End result being, if a store doesn't normally stock an item I want or use, I'm going somewhere else to get it. Period. End of story. As much as I want to give small businesses a fighting chance, I don't believe special ordering through them is the best way to do that.
Yep, one of the local stores I used to go to lost their Guitar Tech, the guy was like way awesome, super talent, I used to go there to have my guitars worked on and of course I would then look at what they had for sale as I was there...after he left, I never went back.The only way Mom & Pop stores are going to survive is to serve a niche need. Any small shop trying to compete selling Fenders and Gibsons vs GC is honestly just waiting to go under. I'll give you 2 solid examples which were doing well in North Texas (no idea what's happening now though)
Guitar Sanctuary only sells high end stuff AND owns a small theater which they have artists which appeal primarily to guitar players perform (and it also doubles as an event venue for wedding receptions).
Charley's Guitar Shop which has built a reputation as one of the best in the area for amp/guitar service/repair.