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Silvertone 1446 Anyone?

kelvinator60

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http://harmony.demont.net/model.php?id=687

I owned one of these for years and it was a great guitar. Often known as the Chris Issak model since he used one early in his career. They have factory Gibson wiring harness and mini humbuckers also made by Gibson. the short scale makes them a little hard to keep in tune but you can do it esp if you put heavier strings on them. Wish I still had mine. You HAVE to have the original pickguard for it to have the coolest look on them. I also think the earliest ones with the metal Silvertone logo on the headstock look the best too.

Grab one if you can!
 

michael30

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I own one. Great guitar, but the ones that you find on ebay usually need a decent setup to reach their potential.
 
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I love old Harmony gtrs up until they started with the bolt-on neck, and structurally speaking, there is no worse design than a hollowbody with a bolt-on neck.

Now those p.u.s...they sound great, and look cool, too. I always wondered why Gbsn never used that sort of miniHB on any of theirs or Epis?
 

kelvinator60

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Never had an issues with bolt neck Harmonys myself. All Day and All of the Night was recorded with a Meteor and the whole Stones first album was Meteor too. Good tones there.

The humbucker is the same as found on ALL Epis with mini hums. The ones on the Silvertones just have the poles staggered. That is the only difference. Just cosmetic. I have owned a '67 Riviera and the pickups were the same under the hood.
 

scelerat

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I love old Harmony gtrs up until they started with the bolt-on neck, and structurally speaking, there is no worse design than a hollowbody with a bolt-on neck.
Why do you say that?

Just curious, don't know nothin about nothin.
 

Always-Ben

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Just reviving this thread to ask, what’s the nut width on these guys? It’s usually listed as 1.75” but others keep claiming it’s actually really skinny, so I’m not sure what to believe.
 

zombiwoof

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http://harmony.demont.net/model.php?id=687

I owned one of these for years and it was a great guitar. Often known as the Chris Issak model since he used one early in his career. They have factory Gibson wiring harness and mini humbuckers also made by Gibson. the short scale makes them a little hard to keep in tune but you can do it esp if you put heavier strings on them. Wish I still had mine. You HAVE to have the original pickguard for it to have the coolest look on them. I also think the earliest ones with the metal Silvertone logo on the headstock look the best too.

Grab one if you can!
In a Seth Lover interview, he said he designed those pickups, at that time Gibson passed on them but Harmony grabbed them. Harmony designed the cool pickup rings for them.
Al
 

lefort_1

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Just reviving this thread to ask, what’s the nut width on these guys? It’s usually listed as 1.75” but others keep claiming it’s actually really skinny, so I’m not sure what to believe.
It should be the same width as other Harmony "Ultra-Slim" necks, e.g. the H-77, etc.

I sold my 1446 back in the 2009 debacle, but I 've got a couple of the H-7x series.
Any other measurements in addition to nut-width?
I can measure one of mine when I get home in a couple hours.

.... or I have a neighbor with one .... I should stop in to see if he's still got it.
 

Always-Ben

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It should be the same width as other Harmony "Ultra-Slim" necks, e.g. the H-77, etc.

I sold my 1446 back in the 2009 debacle, but I 've got a couple of the H-7x series.
Any other measurements in addition to nut-width?
I can measure one of mine when I get home in a couple hours.

.... or I have a neighbor with one .... I should stop in to see if he's still got it.
No, all the other measurements seem to have consensus other than the nut width. Thanks, It be great to get an actual measurement
 

lefort_1

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No, all the other measurements seem to have consensus other than the nut width. Thanks, It be great to get an actual measurement
nut width, edge to edge, on my H-77 is 1 3/4 inches.
the E-to-E spacing is about 1 7/16ths

Measured on a carpenter's tri-square.
Never been the NTSB, so it might not be up to TGP specs.
I honestly TRIED to find my vernier calipers, but they my be down in the barn... I've been building sheep-feeders lately, and ya' gotta be nutz-on accurate.
;)
 

bossaddict

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My mid-'60s 1446L that I'm selling is 1 3/4" at the nut, but I would've sworn it was less than that before measuring.

 

Always-Ben

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nut width, edge to edge, on my H-77 is 1 3/4 inches.
the E-to-E spacing is about 1 7/16ths

Measured on a carpenter's tri-square.
Never been the NTSB, so it might not be up to TGP specs.
I honestly TRIED to find my vernier calipers, but they my be down in the barn... I've been building sheep-feeders lately, and ya' gotta be nutz-on accurate.
;)
I read just now elsewhere that the neck doesn’t get much wider as it goes down...maybe that’s why people think it feels skinny?

Anyone know the width at the 12th fret?
 

lefort_1

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I read just now elsewhere that the neck doesn’t get much wider as it goes down...maybe that’s why people think it feels skinny?

Anyone know the width at the 12th fret?

That's an old Top-Tier-Guitar-Bigots' Tale.

Both the string spacing and the neck width definitely increase as you go up the neck.
I just measured near the neck's heal and the neck width is 1 15/16ths
That's an increase of 3/16ths or just under a quarter inch.

(note, last night I made a bad measure.... string spacing at the nut is closer to 1 1/2 (a bit more than 1 7/16ths)
I blame bad light and 2 margaritas.


If you come up with a group of measures, I will get out the verneir and get the answer down to a couple thousandths.
 

zztomato

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I read just now elsewhere that the neck doesn’t get much wider as it goes down...maybe that’s why people think it feels skinny?

Anyone know the width at the 12th fret?
At the end of the neck (20 fret neck) it is under 2". Compare that to typical Fender neck that is 2 1/8th at the 20th fret. 1/8th doesn't sound like a lot but it is a massive difference when talking guitar necks and that is why people think the necks are skinny. I have a Silvertone Jupiter that has the same neck and it feels a bit confined as you move up the neck yet it's 1.75 at the nut.
My 1968 es-335 has a 1 9/16th nut width and is 2 1/8th at the 20th fret. It feels very roomy by comparison to the Silvertone.
 




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