single coil size humbucker....

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  1. pullagnm

    pullagnm Member

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    What would you suggest? This would be going into a bridge of a SRV strat. I was considering a Hot Rails. What else should I look at?
     
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    What sort of tone/output are you after? PAF, hot humbucker, s/c with no hum?
     
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    The Seymour Duncan line has a few. I have a Jeff Beck Jr in a Strat that fattens up the bridge nicely and still quacks in pos. #2.
     
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    I'm wanting to fatten up the high gain tones that I use. Right now I'm using a Hot Cake with the SRV and it sounds really good, but it's still not as thick sounding as my other strat that has a humbucker in the bridge. If I use the Blue Boy Deluxe it's really thin sounding.
     
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    In that case I'd recommend the DiMarzio Pro Track, very close to a warm, medium output humbucker tone. I haven't heard anything that comes closer to a HB in s/c size. It's also very versatile: it gets a nice single coil tone without the hum if wired in parallel and it splits great.
     
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    I experimented with all sorts of these strat sized humbuckers a couple of years back, and let me tell you, they ain't like the real thing...
     
  7. ScottB

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    I've got a ProTrack and a Cool Rails respectively in the bridge positions of two of my Strats. I like both of them. They don't sound like a full size humbucker, but they are warmer, less harsh and have more balls than a single coil. To my ears, a full size hummer just doesn't sound balanced with single coils anyway. I think either one of these works well in a Strat neck to give nice thick, warm, ballsy balance to vintagey SC's in the neck and middle. They both give nice quack in the 2 position as well.

    I also have both of these wired with a Torres harness with a blender pot. Mix in a little neck with the bridge, and it's killer.

    It's not a full size bucker, but then, do you want one?
     
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    +1 on the Dimarzio Track series humbuckers.

    I used to have a MIM strat wired with 3 dimarzio fast track pickups. Very nice tones, full on and split. Like what ScottB mentioned they don't sound like a full sized humbucker, they have a more open sound, kinda like a strat in 2nd and 4th position but with slightly more grit and body.
     
  9. HarryJ

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    No single sized pup will sound exactly like a side by side 'bucker, as it is sensing the string in a more focused manner.

    I feel the Protrack gets about as close as I have tried (and I've tried a lot of pups) The PT is one of my favorites, warm, and very versitile. It sounds great split and in parallel mode

    The Cruiser is also VERY cool, more of a P-90 vibe


    Here are a few clips from various recordings using:

    Dimarzio ProTrack Bridge Position: (Tele)
    Audio Clip

    Neck Position: (Tele)
    Dimarzio Cruiser (sort of P-90ish) then split, followed by ProTrack, then both in series:
    Neck


    Protrack Bridge, and neck (in Parallel mode) (Strat)
    CLIP


    This is mostly the bridge ProTrack, I occasionally switch to the Neck Protrack in parallel mode (Strat)
    http://www.harryj.net/wank%20mix4.mp3


    Clean Tones:

    Neck Cruiser
    Neck Protrack

    Many more on my site:

    Harry Jacobson
    www.harryj.net
     
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    By the way... The FastTrack is not intended to sound like a 'bucker at all :)

    HJ
     
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    The only problem is the SRV is routed out for single coil's only.

    HarryJ-

    Nice clips. What amp are you using, and are you using any pedals?
     
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    Thx,
    Each track was different in terms of gear
    I generally use a 70's Marshall 50 set clean and low volume, with a Sans Amp for OD

    HJ
     
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    Thanks for the tip! :)
     
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    I overall like the Duncan 'Lil '59 as a bridge pickup. However, IMHO, it does not split well. I would suggest a parallel/series coil switch instead of splitting coils as it sounds a bit thin (to my ears) without both coils in operation.

    As others have said, don't expect a small-spread humbucker to sound like a large humbucker. A 'Lil '59 will get you closer to that sound, but still not there.
     
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    +1 on the Duncans - with the caveat that they will not sound like a large humbucker. My frankenstrat has JB Junior in the neck, and a Hot Rail in the bridge. Also, +1 on the series-parallel option switch.

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    Tell me about the Hot Rails. What amps are you using, and do you use pedals with it? From the SD website I've listened to the audio clips, and I like the low end it has compared to the JB jr. Both sound very nice.
     
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    I use a POD XT Live through a clean amp for efx - or either Tech 21 Trademark 60 or an Ampeg Jet. This particular guitar is strung in DADGAD tuning. I can't comment of how it would sound in your guitar and rig - but the Hot Rail does sound good for overdriven parts. Even if a particular Duncan doesn't have stand out tone - they can usually be tweaked to sound good.
     

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