single coils meet humbucker.

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  1. macmax77

    macmax77 Supporting Member

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    How do you make your single coils look 250k and the humbucker 500k?
     
  2. Totally Bored

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    I think you need a concentric 250k/500k pot.[​IMG]


    I use Humbuckers that work well with 250k pots like a JB, Dimarzio 36th and a Hot Rails on my HSS Strats so I have no idea how to wire that up ?

    Also read that you can use resistors on the pickups. Maybe someone will chime in on that method ?
     
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    you need a super switch and Suhr's excellent wiring diagram. its pretty easy and works very well. just do a google search for suhr ssh wiring
     
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    You use a 500k vol pot and connect a 500k resistor in parallel. One side to where the single coil is soldered on the switch and the other to the ground
     
  5. RayBarbeeMusic

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    No ya don't.

    You also need a "super switch" if we're talking 5 way, and you don't want your humbucker to see 250k in parallel with the middle. If you use that, you can dedicate 1/4 of the switch to giving whatever DCR Value visible to whichever pickup(s) you want in each position using resistors. I do that all the time to let certain positions see different values of volume pot in order to shape tone.
     
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    is there a page where i can see the way to do it?
     
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    It's what Fender use in their "Shawbucker" HSS Strats for the volume control. The 250k part for the SC's and 500k for the humbucker.
    Mounts like any other pot, might be a tad long? Never measured the space under my volume pot in my strats.. :)
     
  10. macmax77

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    Will see if it fits.

    Thank You!
     
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    You're welcome.

    I looked closer at the ad, it apperas to be a "mini" sized pot, so I'd be suprised if it didn't fit. :)
     
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    already bought it, i don't like to measure things and don't have time so i have my fingers crossed, ehehhehehehehhe. :)
     
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    Haha I like your style, buy first, figure out **** later :D
     
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    I don't care for those concentric Fenders, they tend to turn stiff. I also never subrscribed to the buckers need 500K singles need 250K generalization. every time I ran a bucker in a strat, a 500k used for bridge position bucker was so bright/harsh.

    Some stuff you "might" want to consider if you're putting it in a strat:

    *A stock strat doesn't have a tone control on the bridge so with no tone loading, it's going to be brighter, than running in a Gibson.

    *A stock strat has brighter tone woods (alder,maple), it's often more open/brighter than a Gibson, even acoustically.

    *A stock strat has a longer scale than a Gibson, it's often brighter than a Gibson, lol.

    All those add up to a much brighter guitar and most buckers still are plenty bright with a 250K.

    Now for some ear testing proof- My strat has 250K for all HSS and when I give lessons, we both run through the same amp and my maple neck'd strat is often brighter than their (Ibanez/Gibson/etc..) guitar with what would most likely have 500K pots. When they have a strat, it's right there, just beefier on the bucker.

    Now there's all kinds of variables. If you're running a tone on the bridge, or a hot muddy pickup, different woods, etc... then experiment. But the only rules should be from your ears, not your eyes.
     
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    will do and check if it works!

    My strat is not bright by any means.
    It sounds more like a superstrat (think Suhr) than a regular strat.

    Beefier might be the word.
     
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    Experiment, it's about he cheapest mod and really makes a difference. The type of bucker can make a difference too. for many years, Fender made those Lone Star/Road house strats with Pearly Gates in there with alnico V's and 250Ks and those sounded nice and worked well with the singles. I had a Floyd Rose Pro strat, Dimarzio PAF Pro and sounded fabulous with stock 250K pots. A 500K would be icy sounding.
     
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    my guitar used to have Tom Anderson with 500 and sounded great, but not like a strat, but the pups got damage by humidity and TA didn't make them anymore.

    So i tried everything until i got the R Ellis and now the BK pup, but i will change it since it doesn't look well in my guitar (burnt chrome)
    And i need my guitar to look cool in order to attract the girls, hehehheheh
     
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    Not.

    Not hard to figure out if you understand circuits, if you don't, take it to someone like me who does. No matter which solution you use, if you don't understand how it works, you aren't likely to implement it correctly.
     
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    Hmm. I'm kind of dark I never knew about this. Had a tele with a Lollar CC in the neck that I always thought sounded too dark. Wondering if this would have been the magic fix?

    Can't believe with all the research I did I never found it. Oh well.
     
  20. macmax77

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    i can pay you for a plane ticket! :) :p:D
     

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