Skyway - the SG Model

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  1. muddy

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    for those innarested, i wanted to report that rick HAS made some significant design inroads to the sg version of the skyway. what they are, i couldn't say, but evidently there was a design change made due to a new discovery, and he was excited enough by it to tell me that it is getting better & better, given the time he's been able to devote to it's development. all of which means that at some point in the future, you WILL be able to fit a skyway onto an sg! :dude


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  2. Saul Koll

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    :) I can't wait to see it!
    The "normal" ones I have recently installed are things of beauty! And of course they sound incredible.
     
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    WHOA.

    Blows my mind. A working modern trem on an SG. That would be pretty cool, I think, but that nut would have to be cut really well.
     
  4. muddy

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    the one concession i have had to make is the pulling of old tuners & refilling the holes, then redowling & installing the steinberger gearless tuners, so that my sg could achieve a straight string path, from bridge to tuners. that fanning after the nut is what has always made gibsons' tuning so unstable, anyway, to 2 birds/1 stone... it'll be WAY worth the expense!


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    Hey, never heard of this trem before. Is there a link to their website? Thanks!

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    I've heard some about this but haven't discussed it with Rick. My cheapest, but maybe my favorite guitar these days is a Korean PRS Soapbar II, I'd imagine the string height at the bridge would close to match a SG, maybe the same bridge would work. Hell, it might work on a reissue Firebird. Just thinking out loud.
     
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    don't get me stahted, puh-LEEZ! i've been dreaming of a 335/casino thang, too! with extra sproing, yes!!!


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    I see I'm very late to this party! Are you saying that you are going install Steinbergers in the old, redowelled holes to solve the height problem for less downward string pull, or are you going to actually drill brand new holes in a more radical inverted "v' shape so the string doesn't pull sideways on the nut slot?
    Or have you bought an old Firebird by now and stuck a Skyway on it?
     
  9. muddy

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    i don't really wanna get into the skyway thing again as i'll get too upset, so i'll leave that alone. as for the tuners, , yes, i had to re-dowel NEW holez (filling in the old). matte gave me the suggestion. as for the pattern of the tuners, they're now in a kind of constellation pattern. i had a kahler installed and was able to leave the nut as is (without a stringlock); the strings don't get caught in the grooves at all.

    the kahler (i have the stud mount version with the 5 holes), btw, is VASTLY improved from what i'd remembered them to be. for one, they no longer have that loose, sloppy feel. in fact, the heavier springs are TOO taught, so i replaced them with the stock ones, which are perfect. secondly, the look of the unit is no longer bulky & awkward looking; i actually prefer it to the s-way. and the motion in BOTH directions beat the pants off of anything i've seen and/or tried in a non-locking nut styled whammy.

    lastly, the owner of the company bent over backwards to accomodate me & made the process as quick & painless as he could. he's VERY accessable, & responds quickly to all questions & calls for help.


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  10. tradarama

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    for the LJ he's just finishing! Can not wait! He keeps teasing me w/ progress pictures.
     
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    I emailed Skyway inquiring to purchase. Never got a reply. Does he only sell to guitar builders?
     
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    Thanks for the reply. Would love to see pics of the SG. Does the SG present problems trem wise that wouldn't also be present on a Les Paul shape? Aside from the longer neck due to a higher neck join? And i take it that you use a trem a lot, so the need to get back in tune is even more important to you than most? :JAM
     
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    You can't post this w/o pics. Forum rules.
     
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    I got a prompt reply.
     
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    don't have a camera. :( i'll try to get my son to come over & take some with his.

    other than a very small route underneath the block, the studmount version is ridiculously easy to incorporate it's stud & bridge mounting posts on to gibson's original stoptail & bridge mounting holes. it DOES need to be installed properly by a kahler-savvy luthier or repairman, because the setup/adjustments after installation entail knowing how the proper angles & height of a number the unit's parts need to be set. to ignore, or be unfamiliar with this step WILL result in whammy tuning instability. and it takes a good number of tries before everything is kosher, trust me. but the wammiusa site has ALL of this posted there, as well as what to do if...


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    I thought about a Kahler for a new guitar on order but wasn't sure what it would feel/sound like. They're very attractive looking though.
     
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    I have tried to contact Rick by email and phone 4 times over the past 6 months. I do not know whatsup with that cat.
     

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