Slap Guitar Vid

[Frankenstrat86]

Been really practicing this as well as other things and I've been very content in the direction I've been going. Since I'm snowed in tonight here in NY I did this vid hopefully it helps people too. Tell me what you think enjoy

 

[Frankenstrat86]

no thoughts?

 

[Lucidology]

To tell U the truth ..
that's a very cool technique & looks like you've got it down for sure ...
but your sense of 'time' is weak (i.e. pocket, groove, steady tempo ...)

 

[jzucker]

I'd spend some time listening to Louis Johnson. You need to emphasize the odd 16th note subdivisions some more.

 

[Frankenstrat86]

To tell U the truth ..
that's a very cool technique & looks like you've got it down for sure ...
but your sense of 'time' is weak (i.e. pocket, groove, steady tempo ...)

I listened again very carefully I can't say I agree with that. my tempo hardly wavered, there certainly was a groove, and the chord strumming illustrated detailed rythm are you sure it's my sense of timing that's "weak" or is it just not your style?

 

[Frankenstrat86]

I'd spend some time listening to Louis Johnson. You need to emphasize the odd 16th note subdivisions some more.

will do thank you

EDIT: Just checked out a vid wooo thanks for the recommendation

 

[loofery]

I agree with Lucidology. I don't have the muscle control to groove that style really well but I am hearing time "discrepancies"
You will either hear it or you will not (yet) and that is ok, it is what is. I bug myself because now I can hear timing problems I have, but physically have a hard time not making them.

For instance:

-During the first section of the video,
when you repeat the riff you start to speed up (9-10 secs in)
when you are doing the mute riff for the second and last time, just not very tight 18)

-During the practicality section, the chord sequence kind of feels like tug of war with the time.

Hope that helps. I like any guitar player not being a typical guitar player, it just takes time to develop.

 

[Frankenstrat86]

I agree with Lucidology. I don't have the muscle control to groove that style really well but I am hearing time "discrepancies"
You will either hear it or you will not (yet) and that is ok, it is what is. I bug myself because now I can hear timing problems I have, but physically have a hard time not making them.

For instance:

-During the first section of the video,
when you repeat the riff you start to speed up (9-10 secs in)
when you are doing the mute riff for the second and last time, just not very tight 18)

-During the practicality section, the chord sequence kind of feels like tug of war with the time.

Hope that helps. I like any guitar player not being a typical guitar player, it just takes time to develop.

Thanks for the detail appreciate it will certainly work harder at it. I can play 4/4 just fine but I'm also acquainted with other time signatures I think it depends on how used a person is to time tugs and such. Also that thing where you state you noticed discrepencies in your own playing I have to say to do what I do thus far I slowed the metronome down to 50-60bpm see if that helps you. Thanks again

 

[Lucidology]

I listened again very carefully I can't say I agree with that. my tempo hardly wavered, there certainly was a groove, and the chord strumming illustrated detailed rythm are you sure it's my sense of timing that's "weak" or is it just not your style?

You're probably right ... it's certainly not a style I've mastered.
Especially after spending some time hanging with the Wooten brothers.

I remember the time I was trying to apply it to my playing a bit,,,
& all my funkster bass playing bros gave me a hard time about it
so I gave it up since I bascially play funk for a living and slapping on a guitar
was one way of stepping on a slapping/thumb bass player's toes...

However, just want you to know I didn't mean any disrespect..
& that I appreciate you've come a long way with mastering slapping on a guitar ...
I'm just extremely critical of my own time ...

 

[Frankenstrat86]

You're probably right ... it's certainly not a style I've mastered.
Especially after spending some time hanging with the Wooten brothers.

I remember the time I was trying to apply it to my playing a bit,,,
& all my funkster bass playing bros gave me a hard time about it
so I gave it up since I bascially play funk for a living and slapping on a guitar
was one way of stepping on a slapping/thumb playing bass players toes...

However, just want you to know I didn't mean any disrespect..
& that I appreciate you've come a long way with mastering slapping on a guitar ...
I'm just extremely critical of my own time ...

no no it's ok I like the fact you just told me how you saw it. Don't feel like you can't speak to me freely. Besides someone else did agree with you and I certainly hope I didn't come across as hurt or pissed. I'm proud of what I've accomplished so far and in truth I just got this down like a day ago so for me to be overly sensitive is stupid. I also wanted to just share a vid that would get others into the seemingly unspoke of slap guitar world. Like I was saying before I'm used to off time signatures which is why I didn't hear that there isn't a groove like you said or a time tug on the chord progression like was mentioned because I did it on purpose not because I can't play like a normal human haha. Please by all means always speak openly you have my respect sir

 

[jimfog]

I listened again very carefully I can't say I agree with that. my tempo hardly wavered, there certainly was a groove, and the chord strumming illustrated detailed rythm are you sure it's my sense of timing that's "weak" or is it just not your style?

No, he's right. Your time, and especially GROOVE, just aren't really happening here. I'm sure you can get it in time, with work.......but it just has no pocket, bud. That's the most important thing, obviously.

Are you working out with a metronome or drum machine? Might help.

Good luck!

 

[Frankenstrat86]

No, he's right. Your time, and especially GROOVE, just aren't really happening here. I'm sure you can get it in time, with work.......but it just has no pocket, bud. That's the most important thing, obviously.

Are you working out with a metronome or drum machine? Might help.

Good luck!

metronome my good man

 

[Tomo]

I listened again very carefully I can't say I agree with that. my tempo hardly wavered, there certainly was a groove, and the chord strumming illustrated detailed rythm are you sure it's my sense of timing that's "weak" or is it just not your style?

I was gonna give you some advice... but if you can say this... it seems you are limiting your ability. It's totally free what you think about your playing. If you want to improve your playing, I would listen what everyone says and I wouldnot put my own opinion yet. Because I am open to anything to improve my playing... if I were you. Work on how you listen, by what point... many ways.

Tomo

 

[Frankenstrat86]

I was gonna give you some advice... but if you can say this... it seems you are limiting your ability. It's totally free what you think about your playing. If you want to improve your playing, I would listen what everyone says and I wouldnot put my own opinion yet. Because I am open to anything to improve my playing... if I were you. Work on how you listen, by what point... many ways.

Tomo

Tomo read the rest of what was said where I agreed not to mention I asked that because I've known people (not necessarily to me) to give a critique but because something isn't their style they don't really get the intended result of what they're trying to critique. That's why I asked. so feel free to give advice

 

[Tomo]

Tomo read the rest of what was said where I agreed not to mention I asked that because I've known people (not necessarily to me) to give a critique but because something isn't their style they don't really get the intended result of what they're trying to critique. That's why I asked. so feel free to give advice

I read all posts. Thank you. Internet, free world. I want you to respect people spent their time trying to help you in any ways. So I take all positive ways and if you don't like... don't say anything about it. Everyone has opinion. I totally understand that what you are saying. but I think you can work on your time. Not steady! I am very picky about time. Both ways, street way, school way.

Thanks for sharing.


Tomo

 

[Frankenstrat86]

I read all posts. Thank you. Internet, free world. I want you to respect people spent their time trying to help you in any ways. So I take all positive ways and if you don't like... don't say anything about it. Everyone has opinion. I totally understand that what you are saying. but I think you can work on your time. Not steady! I am very picky about time. Both ways, street way, school way.

Thanks for sharing.


Tomo

aaa ok I got you. By the way I ordered your dvd so that should help on that point too. Amazon was slow on shipping it out so I'm waiting an extra few days which sucks I was looking forward to starting it out already.

Anyway thanks to everyone who gave a comment I will continue to work hard until my timing issue is resolved.