Slowing Audio

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  1. jdiesel77

    jdiesel77 Member

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    I know this has been posted many times....Amazing Slow Downer, Windows Media Player, I know thats what they do, but i cant get any of my songs from itunes into those programs. I would rather use WMP since it is free, but how can i get Itunes songs to play in there? Also, I use Tracktion for recording and i can slow down audio in there, but again, same thing...cant bring over from Itunes. Thanks for ur help or ideas....
     
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    SO PRO will allow me to transcribe?? it wont change the pitch?
     
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    Just about any of the digital packages will slow it down without changing pitch. When it says "speed adjustment" that all it is. There's usually a different tool for changing pitch.

    I was told about Transcriber at this site and love it, for what it's worth.

    Their Al-Gore-rhythms seem to specialize in slowing things down. Plus, it gives a a keyboard representation to what notes, and overtones, it thinks it playing. Cool stuff.
     
  5. Tomo

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    I am not really into those slow downer thing. This is my opinion, but...

    Better to choose material/music a few step back and build your ears
    more to catch everything you need to hear.

    It's nice to have a few choices for this... but I rather have you better
    ears so that you can learn faster(later). I would do that area (listening
    skills) to improve more.

    Sorry for off topic.

    Tomo
     
  6. jdiesel77

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    TOMO what do u suggest? just keep trying some things are very fast for me to figure out....Definitely SRV stuff, but i finally decided to sit down and reall learn Johnny B/ Goode intro....i am missing some notes....U think i should just keep at it without slowing down? if so,, then thats what ill do!
     
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    But, you're not doing yourself any unjustice by slowing things down.

    The more you do it, your ear will get better...but there will always be stuff you'll slow down.

    By slowing things down you'll get better and rely less on it going forward. Slowing things down can be a great part of your learning and building process.

    I started by using records down to 16 speed. My ear got to where I could learn off tape in realtime, and very quickly too. But, all those times listening note by note clued me into listening note by note nd allowed me to "understand" it in realtime.

    Do whatever it takes to get better, to learn more. So can never go wrong.
     
  8. jdiesel77

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    gen where do i find "transcriber" and will it work with itunes
     
  9. Tomo

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    Well, I can't give you very specific ideas for you.

    Think about this, if you have bad eye sight, definitely you need a pair of glasses.

    but my idea is you want to plan to work on where you want to be ...
    not right now. It seems that you want something right way. We all want
    that. but choices here

    a) You choose faster way to figure out with this slow downer or diagrams/tabs?

    b) You will prepare more easier or much simple examples, slow tempo?
    less notes figure out. I mean.. you have ears that could grow more ..
    I believe that you can do that.

    Here what I think,

    1) A person choose to do a).... A person will repeat same things, stay
    same place very long time. Need to repeat same way.(I am sure that
    you will improve your ear somewhat..... I will go back to Chuck Berry.
    Then back to Jimi Hendrix's "In the West" (great record!!!!!!) As a matter
    of fact, I transcribed original "Johnny B good" (Chuck B).. for my students
    to show T-Bone Walker's influence(to Chuck)....

    2) A person choose to do ..b) ... Don't get result right way... but this person
    will have stronger ear and musicianship overall later. A good news is
    now(later this person out time working on this.) this person will have more
    freedom to be able to transcribe more music by himself or herself.
    It means that you can transcribe more music by yourself!!! I think
    that you are looking for. Not only this tune. I am interested in your
    growth,and development in your music.

    I hope this will help to think something you look forward, not immediate
    result( That's I don't care myself. ). Hope you will learn relationship
    between your goal & your plan. Music... all related to each others. ...

    I got to eat now. I am hungry!

    PS, Do you listen the tune enough? Try do this. Record one song
    in entire CD. Then listen to that until you can sing ...... now music
    is in your head. Now you can slow down if you want to. It's cheap
    way to store more music. I tend to listen same record, or tune i like.
    .....

    Tomo
     
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    Amazing Slowdowner will work (at least the latest version).

    You need to first convert the iTunes file into an mp3. Then drag the mp3
    into the Slowdowner window.

    It's that easy. I do it all the time.
     
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    thx tomo.....nothing is better than instant gratification but im looking to be better in the future! thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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    I love that.

    The amazing slowdowner and music storage device that's free - your brain.
     
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    This is exactly what I do to cop a "style". I don't cop other players licks that much anymore, but rather cop a "style". And I acheive this ONLY by listening over and over...for months sometimes...to the same thing, and nothing else.

    I don't try and play anything, until I can "pre-hear" everything on the album...like rhythms, chording, solos, breaks, how the next song is going to start, etc...the whole FEEL of it...

    I call it my "Learning by Osmosis Method". It allows me to "get closer" to the music than just copping licks.

    Here's a couple I've done over the last year...

    Steve Vai style - I don't play Steve Vai but was listening to his latest album over and over so I'd have an idea of what he was going to play at his last concert. I haven't listen to Vai since the firt DLR album, that's how long it's been. I enjoyed it the new album, and it rubbed off immensely. I listened to his last album for about 2+ months straight in the car to and from work.

    Gypsy Jazz Style - Again here, I don't play gypsy jazz but made myself a copy of a HCSF CD I got from my mother. I listened to this for about 1.5 months straight to and from work. This is the off-spring of that listening excusion.

    My current "subject" is Kind of Blue by Miles. Even if a smidgen of that rubs of I'll happy :)
     
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    [qoute]Originally Posted by Tomo
    PS, Do you listen the tune enough? Try do this. Record one song
    in entire CD. Then listen to that until you can sing ...... now music
    is in your head. Now you can slow down if you want to. It's cheap
    way to store more music. I tend to listen same record, or tune i like.
    .....

    Tomo

    [/qoute]

    Another comment on this is...yes!

    The more you practice listening, even if it's involves slowing things down mechanically, you wil get to the point where you can sing it in you head, and slow it down yourself.

    That is the key to it for sure. Great point.
     
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    I have to say that software like ASD is a godsend and if I had it when I was 12 I would be much better than I am now. Listening at ANY speed and using your ears to decipher a passage is nothing but GOOD for your playing and in itself constitutes ear training. How many famous guitar players have said in interviews that they slowed down records on the turntable and picked out the licks in the WRONG KEY just to get it under their fingers. If any of you can listen to Charlie Parker or Allan holdsworth at full speed and play that **** after a few sessions well... good for you. For the rest of us mortals ASD is a musical Rosetta Stone and is a better learning tool for improvisation (ESPECIALLY phrasing) than any book, CD, or DVD I have ever come across.

    I honestly think that NOTHING will improve your soloing faster than daily sessions with software like ASD and some tracks by your favorite soloists. YMMV
     
  16. jamminoutloud1

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    I agree 100% with trane...
    I have a question....I have the Scott Henderson Melodic Phrasing video saved as an MPG...I wanted to transcribe a lot of the lines he has using the program Transcribe! How do I convert the audio to an mp3 or wav and somehow will be able to transcribe what he is doing?
     

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