Small Stone Phaser, I love you.

Discussion in 'Effects, Pedals, Strings & Things' started by e-flat, Apr 19, 2015.

  1. e-flat

    e-flat Supporting Member

    Messages:
    1,517
    Joined:
    Aug 3, 2004
    Location:
    Washington State
    I've always loved the Small Stone, for better or worse.

    My first experience with the Small Stone was in early High School when my buddy scored an early 80s V3 at a Flea Market. Since then I've owned a few different versions, but I've always kept my eyes peeled for a V1 or V2 from the late 70s.

    I picked this lovely beast up in Olympia, WA, this weekend and it is the best I've owned. Yes, there is a "perceived volume drop", but it's so gorgeous & chewy that I will make it work. (Pot codes are 1975, which is good luck for me... The year of my birth :D)



    [​IMG]
     
    Coldacre likes this.
  2. OverdriveLover

    OverdriveLover Supporting Member

    Messages:
    1,269
    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2015
    Location:
    SF, CA
    mine if from 79. best phaser ever
     
  3. kyoungsteadt

    kyoungsteadt Member

    Messages:
    286
    Joined:
    May 7, 2007
    Nice! I have an early 80's model. I haven't used it in a couple of years. The color switch and cranking the rate knob gives you a cool ray gun sound.


    ___________________
    http://krispicks.com
     
  4. Empros

    Empros Supporting Member

    Messages:
    10,040
    Joined:
    Apr 29, 2012
    Location:
    Toronto, ON
    "perceived volume drop".. I think there's a definite volume drop, not perceived. But it works for the effect to prevent it from distorting too much.

    The Small Stone is my favourite type of phaser, great pedal! And the look awesome, too :aok
     
  5. Clyde Billt

    Clyde Billt Member

    Messages:
    1,743
    Joined:
    Jul 18, 2009
    Location:
    London
    I have a '76 in beautiful condition.

    When I first got it I started to hear it in just about every one of my fave guitar tracks from the past 30 years.

    I can't get over how many times it seems to be the right pedal to hit.
     
  6. e-flat

    e-flat Supporting Member

    Messages:
    1,517
    Joined:
    Aug 3, 2004
    Location:
    Washington State
    Next on the list: MXR Script Phase 90. It's been a white whale for me... Never owned one!

    As for the volume loss... Perception is reality, right? ;) it's always been my experience that phasers which don't incorporate some sort of mild boost / volume compensation sound like they drop in volume due to the nature of the effect.
     
  7. Hack Prophet

    Hack Prophet vile mighty wretched Silver Supporting Member

    Messages:
    5,866
    Joined:
    Oct 29, 2012
    Location:
    sunglasses
    I have a version 1 like that in really good shape. I also have a version 2. The version one has a sweeter more magical phaser sound, but the version 2 has a pretty usable almost distortion-esque tone when the speed is dimed, whereas the version 1 I find to be pretty useless above 3:00
     
  8. e-flat

    e-flat Supporting Member

    Messages:
    1,517
    Joined:
    Aug 3, 2004
    Location:
    Washington State
    Ca299-
    When you say V2, do you mean the version with "small stone" in Orange letters?

    That's an interesting insight... I feel like the taper on the RATE pot of the V1 I scored is more gradual than the V3 I owned until recently. I don't have them side by side to compare... The V1 I just picked up has a nice, smooth even taper on the pot until just after 3:00. Then it jumps into insanity / ring mod sorts of sounds pretty quickly. So our experience is pretty dead-on there...

    I've never researched this circuit, but I wonder if they swapped the pot taper or value from V1 to V2?
     
  9. e-flat

    e-flat Supporting Member

    Messages:
    1,517
    Joined:
    Aug 3, 2004
    Location:
    Washington State
    I actually started going through withdrawals after I sold my V3 :) Fate shined down upon me & I scored this V1 for $70. I agree that it is an oddly useful pedal... I sat there grinning like a fool when I finally got to play it at home through my setup. With my Maxon AD80 running into the SS set to it's slowest sweep... It was like hearing a phaser for the first time ;)
     
  10. cbpickin

    cbpickin Tweed Supporting Member Silver Supporting Member

    Messages:
    6,310
    Joined:
    Jan 18, 2006
    Location:
    Central Coast, CA
    Funny enough, I just picked one up off of ebay Friday that I am waiting for. I have never owned one, as I have been happy with my Maxon PH350 for years. I also just picked up another Analogman modded Phase90. I have owned one in the past, and I really liked it. So, this week is going to be a phaser festival at my house.
     
  11. e-flat

    e-flat Supporting Member

    Messages:
    1,517
    Joined:
    Aug 3, 2004
    Location:
    Washington State
    I have been eyeballing the Maxon PH350 for a couple months now. I'd love to hear what you think after "Phase Fest 2015" :beer
     
  12. Coldacre

    Coldacre Supporting Member

    Messages:
    9,484
    Joined:
    Oct 3, 2010
    Location:
    Melbourne
    I've got a '75 V1 Small Stone as well! it's awesome.
     
  13. lowerlightsmusic

    lowerlightsmusic Member

    Messages:
    67
    Joined:
    Jul 11, 2010
    I found an old MXR Phase 90 BUD box at an auction last fall. I was hoping to bid on a pedal steel, but there were too many PSG players bidding that Sho-Bud up, so I bid on this as a consolation prize. I was gonna flip it, but it is so chewy and thick, I can't bring myself to sell it. If you find one, you won't be sorry. Great sounding phase.
     
  14. e-flat

    e-flat Supporting Member

    Messages:
    1,517
    Joined:
    Aug 3, 2004
    Location:
    Washington State
    THIS series of Phase 90 is next in the Phase Hunt...
    That & the V1 SS should cover my phase bases.
     
  15. Hack Prophet

    Hack Prophet vile mighty wretched Silver Supporting Member

    Messages:
    5,866
    Joined:
    Oct 29, 2012
    Location:
    sunglasses

    turns out I was wrong, it's not a V2, but a V3...I bought the V1 and the V3 together and there was actually a V2 (with the orange letters) at the store but it was not working, it would have been nice to be able to compare all three. In any case there certainly is some difference going on with the pot, I can coax a few, if esoteric, useable tones out of the V3 with the Rate all the way up, but with the V1 the dissonance is just over the top in that position. The pedals sound pretty similar otherwise,
    with less extreme settings.


    [​IMG]
     
  16. Squatch57

    Squatch57 Member

    Messages:
    3,087
    Joined:
    Dec 7, 2011
    Location:
    Blue Mountains near Sydney
    I recently bought an HBE Psilocybe which I'm really diggin'
    I read that it was a clone of the Small Stone so I can understand the love
    The HBE has an extra switch and knob so it maybe does a bit more
    The downside is it doesn't go as fast as the EHX but my Cusack does that for me!
     
  17. Sun Creature

    Sun Creature Supporting Member

    Messages:
    1,379
    Joined:
    Feb 16, 2011
    Location:
    In between places
    Nice score.

    I had a 1980 Small Stone V3 ,that was failrly mint, I got a few years back from here.

    It aged nicely that it had this nice distorted sound that only an older phaser could make. The bypass was horrible though and instead of sending off to Analogman to mod, I sold it. Big mistake.

    I currently have the big box reissue they did before they did the nano. It is pretty good, not that much of a volume drop.

    It is the phaser tone I prefer. I just do not dig the MXR phase pedals outside of the 45 or the 100.
     
  18. Thedude99

    Thedude99 Member

    Messages:
    1,645
    Joined:
    Feb 3, 2015
    I love the Small Stone. I have a big green Sovtek one - I love it.
     
  19. MadFrank

    MadFrank Supporting Member

    Messages:
    4,262
    Joined:
    Jan 3, 2010
    Location:
    Lost somewhere up the Surrey Delta
    I love the Small Stone too! The early V1 & V2's. I have several variations, but those ones are just magical. I keep it in a bypass loop, so as not to suck.

    It's a criminally under-appreciated circuit by builders, IMO.
     
  20. SmallStones

    SmallStones Supporting Member

    Messages:
    559
    Joined:
    Feb 26, 2015
    Location:
    Texas
    Big fan of the Small Stone (duh). I can track where I really got the pedal bug back to buying a small stone. And though a phase 90 also sounds great with a Rhodes, you will only get that beautiful Richard Tee sound with a Small Stone. If you own a Rhodes and don't yet have a Small Stone, you have a very memorable NPD still in your future.
     

Share This Page