Smashing Pumpkins fuzz tone...

Discussion in 'Effects, Pedals, Strings & Things' started by Kezend, Jun 24, 2006.

  1. Kezend

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    heya,
    just curious if anyone knows the pedal(s) used to get that fuzz on their song The Everlasting Gaze? I know it's drop tuned, but i love that tone...i gotta find more info about their gear. is the big muff used extensively? or do they have heaps of different fuzz's?
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    By that point Corgan was using an absolutlely enormous rig. I'm sure someone will post a photo of it, and it is HUGE! Whatever it was, I'm convinced it wont be easy, and I'm pretty sure it's not a big muff. He is a massive gear whore and must have literally thousands of pedals.....

    Great song though! :D
     
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    Great tune! Sounds like it could be a direct inject. Guitar->distortion pedal->mixing console.
     
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    Mostly a big muff and a strat can get you there. Its a hard sound to get. I would check out past threads or check out guitargeek.com, they have had this topic millions of times.
     
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    It's very muffy. Different people suggest different muffs (including green russian ones and the Way Huge Swollen Pickle)...a lot of people also seem to suggest that there are overdubs to get it all thick-like.
     
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    At the time, Billy was using a Sustainpunch Creamy Dreamer pedal. It is basically an extremely expensive version of the Big Muff with a few mods on it. Pretty sweet if you can find one, but very rare. You could get close enough to the sound using the Big Muff like others have suggested.
     
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    Maybe ADA MP-1? He was really into Kevin Shield's fuzz sounds.
     
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    Try MJM Foxy Fuzz. Nails it.
     
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    I can get there with a Lovetone Big Cheese.

    A Big Muff will come close - but not quite there.
     
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    anyone with the pic mentioned before?????
    links to pictures of his rig?????
     
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    ADA MP-1's and Muffs are all a part of Billys repertoire but I don't think either were used on The Everlasting Gaze. The ADA was used extensively on Gish and the Muffs were a major component of Siamese Dream. By the time of of Machina he was trying out all kinds of whacked out stuff to take his tone through new sonic boundaries. IMO The Everlasting Gaze sounds like a direct inject...
     
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    Heres the pic of Corgans enormo-rig. Three Matchless preamps, two Diezels, PC....this is just totally insane - and that makes it sweet!

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    The Everlasting gaze doesn't sound like a Muff, to me. Not my favorite Pumpkins tone, though.
     
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    thanks for the pic, more?
     
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    Sorry bro, but it took me ages to find that one even. After so many people ripped off his Siamese Dream era, I think he became a lot more secretive. :AOK

    Simon.
     
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    are there any siamese dream era pics anywhere on the net?

    Thanks for the reply and the previous pic.
     
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    His live rig during the SD era was an ADA MP-1, Marshall JMP-1 and Mesa Tri-Axis for Pre-amps. These were run into an Alesis 3630-compressor and an Eventide Ultra-Harmonizer for effects. He used a rack Mesa poweramp to power a couple of 4x12 cabinets. The preamps and harmonizer were controlled by a Lake Butler MIDIgator.

    This is from memory so there could be a mistake in there but I'm pretty convinced it was that setup. The same setup was also used on MCIS. The studio setup for SD was mostly a JCM800 with assorted fuzzes/distortions, including a lot of Big Muff.
     

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