Smoothest yet aggressive "Greenback" type speaker...

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  1. shooto

    shooto Supporting Member

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    what do you think it is?

    here's my thing, I normally don't dig the early breakup of greenbacks...they just sound ratty to me-

    so, I tried a pair of Private Jacks and really liked them (I guess before they broke in) because they were in the Greenback tonal range but they were tighter and more aggressive sounding-

    but now, they have broken in and I'm not digging the "relaxed" nature of them now...tone is there but the aggressiveness and tighter punch seems to have disappeared......that bite has turned into a kind of lifeless flubbiness

    is there another speaker that doesn't have the early ratty breakup of a Celestion yet does have the tonality of a Greenback with a more aggressive nature?....and by aggressive I mean a bitey growl that sits in the mids

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  2. Uncle Pat

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    Eminence Legend GB12's do this very well.
     
  3. shooto

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    not a fan of Vintage 30s...I find them too bright and spikey

    thought about the GB12s....do they mellow a lot when broken in?
     
  4. Ben S.

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    You may want to consider one of Scumback's higher powered greenbacks like the M75-65watt or 100 watt. They will be break up later with the same amp and they are as greenback as greenback can get.
     
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    Weber Silver Bell ceramic. H Greenback-type speaker but the magnet weight sits in between an M Greenback and an H Greenback. It should give you what you want. The similar spec Weber Legacy or the Scumback J75 probably would hit the spot too, but with a higher price tag. The 40 oz magnet weight is the key to avoiding the early rattiness without going all the way to the tightness and loudness of a G12H30, IMO and IME.
     
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    Try a Marshall 425A or B cab. They have G12C-25s, which are greenbacks that hold together a little more, have a bit more beef in the lower mids, and a bit more top end sparkle than G12M's. Really great speakers.
     
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    I'd like to think so. Recently I ran Medusa 150+150C and that's the hugest and tightest G12M tone I've ever heard. And these being Fanes really pack a lot of sha-pow in the mids and all over the place

    If necessarily staying with Celestion then possibly the CL80. Not much of a midhump but it stings.

    Edit: Getting to think of it, but the new Lynchback is sort of a 50W G12M with Fane aspirations.
    Edit2: Then that new Creamback 65W thingie could go down well too, I suppose. Moving on we have the Weber Gray Wolf and those Scumback Blackbacks.
     
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    Fryette's P50E also fits your description as well. It's made by Eminence.
     
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    Magnet weight on the SB depends on the wattage. Form 50W up, magnet is 50oz as standard, unless you special-order them (which Weber will honour, without question).
     
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    WGS Reaper. You'll thank me later.
     
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    Right! Good point.
     
  14. Trebor Renkluaf

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    Smooth and aggressive? Isn't that an oxymoron? Like hot yet cold. Bright yet dark. Laid back yet in your face. Clear yet muffled. Punchy yet with a soft attack. Smooth and aggressive are opposite ends of the spectrum in my book.
     
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    Could also try those George Lynch greenbacks...
     
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    The GB12s are mellow and smooth. At least two 16 ohm speakers together in a cab, they don't break up early.
    MD
     
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    GB12 or Private Jack...essentially the same speaker.
     
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    I have an M75 LHDC 65 watt and I find it to be both aggressive and smooth, with a definite Greenback tone. Remarkable speaker.
     
  19. Rod

    Rod Tone is Paramount Silver Supporting Member

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    I was in the same boat as you on this.. I tried many speakers. All the Scumback H and M series, Celestion 65's , Rinehardt's ect ect... Settled on a WGS British Lead. All I can say is try one.
     

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