So annoyed at the price hike on Danocasters

derekd

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Yes, that might be the cheapest way of getting a Danocaster. Chances are that the estimates are set way too low in order to get people to bid more easily and that they will end up costing more.
Yeah, I'm seriously considering bidding on a couple lesser known pieces.

Already warned my wife.
 

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Bear in mind by the time you add in all the auction/internet fees, there's around a 30% buyer's premium on top of the winning bid amount...
Yep. I used to buy art at auction. Without getting into details, the winning bid is only the start of your out-of-pocket costs.
 
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Sorry...not Cliff from LA Vintage. I've never even bought anything there. I have been to the store a couple times over the past few years, and Cliff was not there either time. Though, the last time I was there I spent some time listening to Allan Hinds playing a 50's Goldtop LP through one of the Two Rock amps that were there. He sounded pretty happening and worth the trip alone. I don't consider myself an "apologist" for anyone, frankly. I have no personal bad experiences, and until I saw this thread those that I know spoke very highly of both Cliff and the store. I just feel it is hypocritical to tell a business that they shouldn't make as much money on a product as they can, when most are more than happy to take advantage of gear blowouts when something doesn't sell.

Edit to add: I just reviewed the link, and the posted info does look bad though all I could see (maybe it's a work deal) is what is listed as "LA Vintage" comment. Don't know what the item is or the context. I did check the guy who left the review, and he has one other review that he left for Guitar Mill for a body and he absolutely roasted them. Maybe there is more to the LA Vintage story than we know?
John thank you for your post - Clif Jones here . I don't really look thru posts so I just saw this , 2 months later . The guy from Colorado that left me my only ill review . I truthfully can't remember him or the amp and secondly I have never had a charge back on a amp or guitar . The guy doesn't state what he bought . Maybe he wants to refresh our memory or probably just hide behind his computer screen and try and bash whoever as John pointed out I'm not the only victim . The acqusation I called someone a greedy bastard , yes I did . He listed a Danocaster for 10K the night Dan posted his letter . I stand by it , He is a greedy bastard. People are getting on me for the upcharge ? Well in their bashing they forgot to say these were my personal guitars , mint , ordered to my specs and built for me .

I own a high end store with clean , sometimes rare gear and the best of the best in new gear . I really don't care if someone gets butt hurt I didn't discount 20% for them or whatever they feel is an injustice . I single handedly buy ALL the gear for my store . As a matter of fact I have a straight job that enables me to own and supply my store . I sure couldn't pay my bills from profit in the store . I don't come in till 1pm because I'm out working my other gig .

So - If you have a legitimate complaint please call or e-mail me . Don't hide behind your computer screen and troll away . Enough of that cowardness in the world . Boom / Done . Thank You
 

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I have 2 Danos, 1 a spectacular JM offset from LA Vintage a couple of years ago.

Clif was easy to deal with and while some may have different takes on retail pricing, I got a spectacular guitar at a price acceptable to me (my previous Dano came directly from Dan several years ago ).
 

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I sold a Danocaster about a year before Dan’s announced retirement, and must admit to a brief pang of regret for having let it go so “cheaply.” But looking at what’s happened to the Danocaster used market, at least on Reverb.com, is a little shocking. In fact, the one I sold is listed at about double what I sold it for. I wonder though if they’re really moving at those prices. I see a few recently “marked down” and the same guitars have been for sale for quite some time. I’m guessing the market is smarter than those sellers are giving it credit for. Dan makes a hell of a good guitar, but at the end of the day the purchase of a used Danocaster has to make some financial sense.
 
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I wonder though if they’re really moving at those prices.
completed sales indicate that are selling in the $4k range... and many are selling in less than 30 days. I bet your local guitar center would kill to consistently sell any brand of guitars that retail for $4k in less than 30 days.
 

scottcw

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completed sales indicate that are selling in the $4k range... and many are selling in less than 30 days. I bet your local guitar center would kill to consistently sell any brand of guitars that retail for $4k in less than 30 days.
Reverb does not show the actual sales price. If a guitar is listed for $4K, but the seller accepts an offer of $3K, Reverb doesn't share the negotiated price. So searching sold listings is useless.
 

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Reverb does not show the actual sales price. If a guitar is listed for $4K, but the seller accepts an offer of $3K, Reverb doesn't share the negotiated price. So searching sold listings is useless.
I know some of the people selling these guitars. They are selling in the upper $3k to $4k range and it isn't taking long to get them sold.
 

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the guitars dan is dribbling out at the moment are 3200
And literally get snapped up minutes after Dan posts them! Given the instant demand for the new products at $3200, I wouldn't be surprised if used examples are coming in above that.
 

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And literally get snapped up minutes after Dan posts them! Given the instant demand for the new products at $3200, I wouldn't be surprised if used examples are coming in above that.
Sure...looks like the price is solidly below 4k
 

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Can anyone clarify the current position with Danocaster builds?
I got on the list in Jan '19, a few months before he announced he was stepping back from building guitars. I assumed that meant I'd never see my order come through (the list was around 16 months at the time), and was absolutely fine with that, I wish him well in winding down and being in control of his own workload.

More recently I've noticed his instagram is back in swing with new builds. Are these coming from the list or are they more random in nature to use up remaining materials? Are the people who got on the list 9 months before me getting their guitars?
I never heard anything back via email after the original "you're on the list" email, so 'official' comms have only been what I've seen on instagram.
 

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You know what must be annoying is if you’re a builder who makes the neck and body and pickups in house and has to compete with a parts guitar for the same price. That would annoy me. But, whatever.
well, the in-house builder has an obvious advantage in that situation! if he has the superior product, he'll win every time in an open market!
 

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I'll never understand the 'parts guitars' comments for bolt on builders who outsource necks and bodies.

They spec out what they want, help select wood and inspect each piece before using it. Literally the exact same as if it was just another employee doing it in house. Plus, unlike someone doing it one at a time, they have a pile of necks and bodies and can do some mixing and matching.

I feel like parts guitar is an attempt to belittle these style builders but I'll never understand the difference. Especially when you hear Dan talk about his relationship with who he sources from.
 

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2 'famous' guys off the top of my head that Dan's made guitars for:

Julian Lage (although AFAIK it is still being used by his girlfriend Margaret Glaspy).
Neal Schon
Keith Urban was an early customer.
 

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I'll never understand the 'parts guitars' comments for bolt on builders who outsource necks and bodies.

They spec out what they want, help select wood and inspect each piece before using it. Literally the exact same as if it was just another employee doing it in house. Plus, unlike someone doing it one at a time, they have a pile of necks and bodies and can do some mixing and matching.

I feel like parts guitar is an attempt to belittle these style builders but I'll never understand the difference. Especially when you hear Dan talk about his relationship with who he sources from.
The difference is that almost anybody can assemble parts whereas it takes talent and years of experience to build a guitar from scratch.
Obviously this guy builds a nice guitar but the price to effort ratio is a little off.
 




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