Exactly, the money people are paying for a USA Custom parts guitar is stupid. I don’t care how great the paint job is the headstock is wrong.I’ve owned 15 Danocasters, both Freakin’ and post. Found the post better. The highest I paid was 2k, but most at 16-18. Most were worth it at that price. These are partscasters with an excellent relic job (if not for the relicing they’d be 1200 guitars today). Dan was not cutting his own wood, winding his own pups and were not set any better than a fairly large group of other builders. And they came with a cheap gig bag worth about 3 bucks. If I would have kept any/all I’d have all 15 for sale for 3k without looking back.
is this thread some kind of weird humble brag?As far as I'm concerned, Dan should be able to charge whatever he wants for his work. But the prices that people are asking, just annoys me. Look, I get it. Klons went for what (?) and sell for what? Dumbles sold for what (?) and sell for what? That doesn't mean that I have to embrace it. There is a vendor on tgp (that I won't name) that single handily raised the price on Dan's guitars by $1,000.00 sometime before Dans announcement. I guess that is what started my resentment (which I know can kill you). I spoke with this guy and really talked up Danocasters, and then he figured let's jack up the price and see what happens. I appreciate the forum and the opportunity to vent. I have never stared a thread before, but couldn't help myself. I guess the real conundrum will be when I move my Danocaster.
Yikes. IMO that is a bad look and would steer me away from buying anything from them. I get that there is a demand and that it is a free market and they raise the price however they see fit, but this is downright greedy and doesn't sit well with me.LA Vintage has them at $6k right now.
^^ Physically it's a nice store, good layout and some lovely gear, but in my experience (and others who have reached out to me), there are much better options when it comes to choosing a shop that respects its customers. The owner will be the first to tell you about business principles, the market, etc, which is fine for those who view musical instruments as widgets.
And on top of that Grosh makes a better sounding and playing guitar that's not just a parts guitar. The NOS Grosh tele I played sounded fantastic, neck and fretwork was on par with Collings. The Danocaster strat I played sounded dead(probably because of the wood on that particular guitar). Played ok, but no better than a Fender American Professional...Yeah, I get that they are trying to run a business and it can be difficult, and never judged them on the markups they did in the past for not having to be on a wait list and thought that the price was still aligned with the quality of the instruments, but $6,000 is just too obviously greedy. They could have marked them up to $4000 and I wouldn't be posting about them making an extra thousand on the end of their dano inventory, but more than doubling the price on an already very expensive instrument just isn't good ethics imo. Not to mention that it drives up the price in the secondary market as well since they are the only official distributor. Im not sure how Dan feels about this and would be curious to know his input, although I know it wouldn;t be professional for him to speak foul about a company he has worked with for so long.
I used to want a Danocaster and now realize that I will never own one, so maybe part of this is a little butt hurt about that reality. Looks like I am likely going to go with a NOS Grosh at this point as my next guitar, which are fantastic guitars that are about half the price.
The issue with L.A. Vintage Gear is that he apparently private messaged a seller on Reverb and called him greedy for raising prices after Dan announced his intention to quit. Then, a short time later Clif listed his remaining Danocasters for $6,000, a hefty premium over what he paid for them. It's a bad look for him, and, furthermore, the market isn't supporting those prices.There are some really weird assumptions in this thread about how business is conducted and how markets work. A person that's "mad" about "greed" in a simple supply and demand correction due to market forces (no ongoing supply) should remember that how someone feels about owning a Danocaster is just the reason the price will increase dramatically or not. Carping about someone else's windfall or, conversely, a decline in value really has no effect on the market itself.
C'mon, guys. "Not good ethics" at L.A. Vintage? Please. I bought this Danocaster from L.A. Vintage for a premium of about $450 over what Dan was charging at the time. It never once crossed my mind that I was being ripped off. I, actually, remember having a great conversation with Clif about how him having Danos readily available (him making the investment) was great. And the idea that Dan should enjoy the increase in guitars sold by L.A. Vintage only stands to reason if he should get some of the increase in value every owner enjoys that sells in the future.