Discussion in 'Recording/Live Sound' started by NeiloMac, Nov 21, 2017.
Good old Gibson. *sigh*
Oh wow, even though I'm using Studio One a lot more these days, I'm very sad to see Cakewalk go. It was my first DAW in the 90s, and I still have the "lifetime" update plan.
Gibson seems to kill everything it touches.
I wasn't aware that cakewalk & Sonar were even around anymore...thought they died years...like a decade ago.
Well, that's how Henry rolls.
1. Buy a company for way too much money because they've got some little piece of tech you want
2. Ignore everything that the company was founded on
3. Shift all R&D to ideas for Gibson Guitars that users will hate
4. Rush off and make another bad acquisition, while ignoring the last one
5. Close down the last acquisition, because you didn't know how to make money with it, anyway.
Just waiting for the imminent death of Tascam, too.
Freakin' Jibson couldn't even get the press release correct
The list of companies that Gibson has bought and then euthanized after years of neglect is very long.
Sonar user here. Just found out about this. It's a bummer.
Cakewalk and Sonar were not at all dead. Sonar is a very, very capable DAW.
Let's not turn this thread into another bash-on-Gibson fest. There are enough of those.
DAW users --- What do you recommend to those of us who may well need to move to a new DAW in the near future?
I had already switched over to Studio One for most of my use. To me it is very intuitive, and since I use soft synths triggered via a keyboard, I like that you have a setting that will allow you to monitor tracks you are currently using at very low latency, and the rest of the project plays back at higher latency. Hard to describe, but it actually allows you to play back a busy song that you might be nearly finished mixing, and lay down another track or two with the low latency monitoring. Same principal applies to things like amp sims and adding effects to a track when you are dubbing in a vocal. Since they added that feature I haven't used another DAW.
I've also used Reaper some, and it is very powerful and a great value, but I really didn't find it as intuitive to work with. They have a ton of how-to videos, so I'm sure I could get the hang of it if I were to dig in and watch a few. But that feature I mentioned above and the ease of use keep me using Studio One.
Another Sonar user here. This sucks. But, in reality, all DAWs pretty much do the same thing. I stuck with it because I learned it years ago, and knew how to get around it easily.
Time to learn how to work with another DAW I guess.
Thanks. Will have to look at Studio One. Reaper is already on my radar, and it it clearly has come a long way.
The low-latency feature you mention sounds very useful. I don't use tons of soft synths, but I always have a few amp sims in play. Is it possible to set a higher latency for something like a drum plug-in that I would never use in real time?
You're almost certainly right. But, still, it would be great if another company picked up Cakewalk and kept Sonar alive. I can't imagine that such a well known brand is going to just vanish from the market.
That is kind of how it works. Say you set your ASIO buffer to 64 samples, or even lower. You then set the thing up to play back your pre-recorded tracks at whatever setting you want. It will simulate the load of 512 or 1024 samples on all of your pre-recorded tracks and things like your drum sampler. keeping the CPU load low. Then you enable the tracks you are adding to use the low-latency mode and you can play along without the delay. i don't remember the right terms, but it is really cool how it all works.
A “growing company”... lol
Well, I guess I should be happy they made this announcement before I upgraded, but just goes to show Gibson destroys everything it touches.
Eff'n Gibson. I'd play a cigar box guitar before I'd ever play one of theirs again.
Cakewalk seems to have been struggling due to underfunding these past few years ...at least according to the customer help desk via the forums.
The grim reapers of the M.I. industry.
I was once a beta tester for them.
Too bad. Gibson buying a company is the kiss of death.
I used Cakewalk for many years and Sonar too. Since the early days of the internet. In more recent years I've been using Logic but it's still sad to hear.
Nice that they placed a guitar sale ad on that page.