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Discussion in 'The Sound Hound Lounge' started by MissingSomethin, Sep 25, 2015.
Richard Thompson, was always completely clean. Still killing it!
what is sober? how do we distinguish between say a beer and a joint from time to time or full on I need an 8 ball just to feel normal,as neither are sober. I guess if we graphed the increasing consumption vs creativity I think they'd be parallel for a bit then one would skyrocket creativity would crash. With sobriety coming latter in life other other issues come into play: age, attitude, health plus limited musical knowledge, expectations and cultural zeitgeist. Rare are the guys like Miles who can reinvent themselves.
Saw him once and he was pathetic he was so waste. Saw him a 2nd time and he was as good as he was in the faces days 20x's better than any stones show. Sober, maybe not 100% but not a drunken mess and only vertical due to imports from Latin America
...or just the years themselves...
Sorry to be that guy, but those variables are negatively correlated, not positively.
No worries - I'm complimented that you read my post sufficiently closely to catch that!
Well your post was worth reading, as your point is spot on. I'm just a pedantic ass sometimes...
Same thing with Bonham...compare his playing on the 1st album to the last one .
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Rock harder, and more enduringly than Fripp, McLaughlin, Aretha, Stevie Wonder, Coltrane?
I thought it was a joke thread.
From an entertainment standpoint I kinda enjoy the trainwreck.
This question has been around far longer than RnR. Jazz players,for instance. Miles had his greatest creative period once he got sober.
Coltrane was always high on the music he created. Gerry Mulligan,Chet Baker & Joe Pass lost many years of their careers to addiction.
Charlie Parker once stated that he played far better when he was sober.
I despise drugs. Far too many of the musicians we know & love have fallen by the wayside due to them.
"All heroin did was take away ten years of my life." -Joe Pass.
"I don't like to talk about it,..... because we thought at the time it was what musicians did, ...and I don't want other people to get that idea. Think of the worst hangover you ever had....now imagine it a million times worse!" - a visually agitated Jack Bruce, in a BBC documentary 2 yrs ago.
"I had to stop " - Miles Davis.
"When you get clean, come on back." - a sober Miles Davis to pre-sober Mike Stern.
"I can't listen to myself from that period." - Mike Stern, told to a friend /member who posts here frequently (Mike Neer).
"We were a rock band that did drugs. We become a drug band that played rock." - Ozzy Osborne, about Black Sabbath.
the ones who know.
Sticks in my mind I read that some of the change in style was instituted by Page to fit better in the hocky rinks were subtle things were lost. Can't remember where I read that. I not sure how gone JB was they playing seems fine as there seems to be a lag time between use, abuse and loss of skills....but I agree sober would have been between
False: Angus Young??
Rock Smart, Not Hard.
I saw SRV before and after. He was much better when sober.
Mike Portnoy (ex-Dream Theater, Transatlantic, LTE, Winery Dogs, Neal Morse.....) has been sober for a long time. He is sure busy in tons more projects than before.