Soloing over "Still got the blues"..

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  1. kingsxman

    kingsxman Silver Supporting Member

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    We;ve been playing this song for years and I have a confession to make: I have no idea what I'm doing when I solo through it. It shows at certain parts. Can someone give me some ideas of what I can try (patterns, etc) at different parts of the progression? My theory is pretty much non existant. This is why I need to go back and take some lesson so I know what goes over what chord.

    I also struggle it seems to remember the progression so if theres anything that goes over multiple chords in the progression that helps.
     
  2. Dana

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    I think of Autumn Leaves when soloing over this tune. Same chord changes, the key might be different.

    II, V, I in major followed by ii, V, i in the relative minor.
     
  3. kingsxman

    kingsxman Silver Supporting Member

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    Thanks...but I have no idea what you mean...
     
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    I know the changes by listening, but what key is it in?
     
  5. kingsxman

    kingsxman Silver Supporting Member

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    The first chord is a DM....But I cant tell you what key its in.
     
  6. Dana

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    I believe it's

    Dm - G7 - Cmaj (C major)

    Bm - E7 - Am (A minor)
     
  7. yZe

    yZe Senior Member

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    Okay, for right now, just blast off in an A mi blues scale with these different notes (F) & (B)

    Play all your Ami blues licks and add "F" & "B" in there for flava

    Try to invent licks in each of the five pent fingerings for Ami, and locate where the "F" & "B"'s are in those 5 fingerings and add those to those multi-positional licks

    on The last chord, and on the last beats before the beginning, aim for a C#, or E and have it resolve to the "D"

    If you don't know your note names, there's not much else i can do for ya, other than advise you to learn your note names
     
  8. kingsxman

    kingsxman Silver Supporting Member

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    Thank you. I'll give that a try. I'd been doing the Am thing already but there were parts where it just didnt work. I'm not fast enough to change over every chord change...so what your describing should work.

    By "note names", do you mean knowing where each note is on the fretboard? Thats definitely something I need to work on.
     
  9. dewey decibel

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    Here's an Aminor pent scale, based off the 5th fret:

    Code:
    1 |X| | |X|
    2 |X| | |X|
    3 |X| |X| |
    4 |X| |X| |
    5 |X| |X| |
    6 |X| | |X|
    Over Dmin emphasize these notes:

    Code:
    1 |[COLOR="Red"]X[/COLOR]| | |[COLOR="Red"]X[/COLOR]|
    2 |X|[COLOR="Red"]X[/COLOR]| |X|
    3 |[COLOR="Red"]X[/COLOR]| |[COLOR="Red"]X[/COLOR]| |
    4 |X| |[COLOR="Red"]X[/COLOR]| |
    5 |[COLOR="Red"]X[/COLOR]| |X|[COLOR="Red"]X[/COLOR]|
    6 |X| | |X|
    Only one note different than the Amin pent scale. Basically this chord:

    1)5
    2)6
    3)5
    4)7
    5)5
    6)

    Over G7 these notes:

    Code:
    1 |X| |[COLOR="Red"]X[/COLOR]|X|
    2 |X|[COLOR="Red"]X[/COLOR]| |[COLOR="Red"]X[/COLOR]|
    3[COLOR="Red"]X[/COLOR]|X| |[COLOR="Red"]X[/COLOR]| |
    4 |[COLOR="Red"]X[/COLOR]| |X| |
    5 |[COLOR="Red"]X[/COLOR]| |X|[COLOR="Red"]X[/COLOR]|
    6 |X| |[COLOR="Red"]X[/COLOR]|X|
    Only one note different from those emphasized over Dmin7, basically this chord:

    1)7
    2)6
    3)7
    4)5
    5)5
    6)

    Then Cmaj. It's the same scale as the Amin pent, just focus on these notes.

    Code:
    1 |X| | |[COLOR="Red"]X[/COLOR]|
    2 |[COLOR="Red"]X[/COLOR]| | |[COLOR="Red"]X[/COLOR]|
    3 |[COLOR="red"][COLOR="Red"]X[/COLOR][/COLOR]| |X| |
    4 |[COLOR="Red"]X[/COLOR]| |X| |
    5 |X| |[COLOR="Red"]X[/COLOR]| |
    6 |X| | |[COLOR="Red"]X[/COLOR]|
    Basically this chord:

    1)8
    2)5
    3)5
    4)5
    5)7
    6)8

    When I say emphasize that doesn't mean those are the only notes you can play, just that those are the ones you'll want to hang on. Over C major try you stock blues licks/bends, just remember to reslove to one of the notes in red rather than the A note.
     
  10. buddastrat

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    I haven't heard it in awhile so I'm not sure, but I don't think there was a regular Bm chord in there. I was thinking it was a Bmin7b5 or a B dim which works better for the key of Am.

    It's hard to go wrong with this progression. It's like soloing to Canon in D, everything sounds good as long as you're in key. A nat. minor (C Major) all the way through 'till the turn around and then use an A harmonic minor. Or just sharp the G of the A minor scale.


    So many songs use this typical progression pattern, even from way back in the Bach and Pagannini stuff. Pop tunes like Wide World, Europa, even the disco tune I Will Survive use it. It's about as popular as the 12 bar blues. Is there a name for that chord progression that moves in fourths? It's such a predictable progression.
     
  11. Elektrik_SIxx

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    +1. Use the A natural minor and for the bridge just emphasize the G#. In fact, emphasize the the 3rds of each chord, that's what the guitar theme revolves around and it also resurfaces in parts of the solo.

    I think this progression is just a Circle of Fifths progression.
     
  12. Dickie Fredericks

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    I havent done it in a long long time but I think you're right about the Bmin7b5
     
  13. Flyin' Brian

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    Slight change in the chords:


    Dm - G - Cma7 - Fma7
    Bm7b5 - E7 - Am
     
  14. johnnyguitar

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    We used to play it in the band backin the early 90's..I just learned it note for note..then I got a Gary Moore tab book of the CD and corrected a few notes..that book is still available I think
     
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    Sir, yes sir - yes sir
     
  16. kingsxman

    kingsxman Silver Supporting Member

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    Excellent! Thank you!
     
  17. Caretaker

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    If all else fails, or for more help. Get the Live Blues dvd or watch it on youtube.
     
  18. gennation

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    Not much to add here...cause I've only played it a few times...but...I made this cheat sheet for a filler gig one time...it's in the Key of Gary Moore's recording...it might be helpful for reference...

    Still Got the Blues

    [FONT=&quot]Intro Lick:[/FONT]
    Code:
     [FONT=&quot] E------------------|-------------------|-------------------|--------------[/FONT]
      [FONT=&quot]B------15—17(b)—15-|------13—15(b)—13--|--10--12—13(b)—12--|--12--10—8-10-[/FONT]
      [FONT=&quot]G--14--------------|--12---------------|-------------------|--------------[/FONT]
      [FONT=&quot]D------------------|-------------------|-------------------|--------------[/FONT]
      [FONT=&quot]A------------------|-------------------|-------------------|--------------[/FONT]
      [FONT=&quot]E------------------|-------------------|-------------------|--------------[/FONT]
      
    Intro: 6/4 time

    |Dm7 | G7(Gsus11) | Cmaj7 | Fmaj7 | Bm7b5 | E7 | Am7 | Am7|

    Verse

    | Dm7 | G7(Gsus11) | Cmaj7 | Fmaj7 | Bm7b5 | E7 | Am B C E|

    | Dm7 | G7(Gsus11) | Cmaj7 | Fmaj7 | Bm7b5 | Bm7b5 | E7 | E7 |

    Chorus

    | Am7 | Em7 | Am7 | D7 | F9 | E7#9 | Am7 | Am7 |


    Verse Again

    Bridge

    | Bm7 | E7 | Am7 | Am7 | Bm7 | E7 | Fmaj7 Em7 | Dm7 | Am7 | Am7 |

    SOLO over Verse chords
    Chorus end with Em7 Em7 Em7
    Chorus

    SOLOS
     
  19. sampleinajar

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    Yes, I was going to say the same thing. A natural minor (aeolian) and A harmonic minor when you hit the V7. Think of the chord tones as you go through the changes - outline some with triads, etc. It's a fun progression with a large margin of error in terms of what will work harmonically.

    Steve
     
  20. Tone_Terrific

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    |Dm7 |Dm7/G | Cmaj7 | Fmaj7 | Bm7b5 | E7 | Am | Am|Verse| Dm7 | Dm7/G | Cmaj7 | Fmaj7 | Bm7b5 | E7 | Am /B/ C | E|| Dm7 | Dm7/G | Cmaj7 | Fmaj7 | Bm7b5 | Bm7b5 | E7 | E7 |Chorus| Am | Em | Am | D9 | F9 | E7#9 | Am | Am |Verse AgainBridge| Bm7 | Bm/E | Am/B | Am/C | Bm7 | E7 | Fmaj7 Em7 | Dm7 | Am | Am |SOLO over Verse chordsChorus end with Em7 Em7 Em7ChorusSOLO

    Formatting got lost but the chord symbols are correct, if anybody needs them.

    BTW, if you can play the solos like Moore, nobody will care if you can detail the harmonic theory.:dude
     

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