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Songs with excellent examples of modulation

Discussion in 'The Sound Hound Lounge' started by DWB1960, Jul 25, 2011.

  1. paka

    paka Member

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    Hmm... Just tried that Eb7 seems to resolve to G not D. Yes I should be more specific about the chord changes. I'll try and post something better. Thanks for any help.
     
  2. mosesblues

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    The solo in Kid Charlemagne comes to mind. Also the solo/instrumental section in Aja. The skill it must require to solo into those changes the first time, before they became imprinted parts in memory, just dazzles me.
     
  3. wire-n-wood

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    I've never heard a modulation up one tone or a half tone that didn't make me roll my eyes.
    The Truck Drivers Gear Change... hall of shame.

    If ever you've run out of ideas or your song has said all it has to say... then stop. Please don't try to ring out a little more emotional intensity by stepping up a key.
     
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  4. paka

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    Well said. That's the essence of cheesy. Barry Manilow anyone? LOL
     
  5. paka

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    I think that I need to get to F#7 which is an easy step up from E7, then back into D major. But thanks, you got me on the right track by suggesting a different nearby 7 chord.
     
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    Hard to suggest much as I don't know the genre, tempo, harmonic rhythm, or what you're going for.

    If you have a melody, I would consider that first.

    Millions of ways back to D.

    The most vanilla way back to D is via it's V7, an A7. That's why I suggested Eb7, since you were close to it already. It's the tri-tone sub of A7.

    In lots of rock / blues, you can always come back to home from a whole step below, so you could approach D from C.
     
  7. paka

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    It's a complicated progression, kind of crossover rock with shades of jazz, and I like your A7, but in this case the A6 sounds nice cuz I'm coming back in to D via a sus4. Thanks for you help.
     
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    In The Year 2525 by Zager and Evans...they go up a semitone each time they go into the future. When I was nine years old and first heard the song I found it effective.
     
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    ...or use A itself. Given that ii V I tend to work as a way to modulate, try using an eminor (which belongs in both keys) to A to D. The main thing is that if you create a section that can be ambiguous (could work in either key) that can smooth the transition. If you want a smooth transition, that is.
     
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    Modulating Mickeys on the organ at the ballpark.
    Classic.
     
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    So What. :p
     
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    Does Cheap Trick's Surrender strike you the same way?

    Not trolling ya.
     
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    Just had a listen. I didn't know the song... Cool song, harmonies and chomping guitars... all good.

    The key change coming out of the intro is more interesting. It's got more of the feel of a live performance when you start messing around, and then break into the actual song.
    The key change in the middle is a classic tired truck driver's gear change. I guess they wanted to make it a 5 minute song.

    I'm not knocking Cheap Trick. Some of my favourite artists are guilty of this step-up modulation. The Beatles, Stevie Wonder... these guys are freakin' genius, so take their opinion above mine, by all means. I'm just a bit cynical about this particular musical cliché.
     
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    "Sunny" by Bobby Hebb. I prefer the Electric Flag version though.
     
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    If I understand modulation correctly...which could be a stretch...then how about My Generation by the Who...the modulations fit the theme of the song driving it to the destruction end.
     
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    Too many to list, but I've always dug the modulation in "You're gonna lose that Girl".
     
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    I learned how to modulate from old big band recordings, especially vocals. The Paul Whiteman/Bix/Bing records have a lot of great examples. Check out the tune Changes, which is about....changing keys.

     

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