Songs you had to pull because your singer simply wasn't good enough ?

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  1. Telejester

    Telejester Member

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    I so so so wanted the inclusion of long train running by the doobie brothers on the setlist and I persuaded the guys to try it.Turns out the singer couldn't get to within a country mile of pitch and the backing harmonies were equally as pitiful.I was so pissed off as I had to perform crap like talk dirty to me and that doobie song would have been a stellar song to pull off live.Which songs in your bands were yanked because the vocals weren't up to it or you performed knowing the singing was poor ?
     
  2. HoboMan

    HoboMan Silver Supporting Member

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    Change the key of the song?
     
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    Telejester Member

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    Wouldn't have mattered as the singer simply didn't have the range.
     
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    A lot of songs. We want to add much more modern stuff, but so much of it has high Bs, Cs, or even higher. I carry an extra guitar tuned to Eb just to do some of these, but others just don't work.
     
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    dirk_benedict Supporting Member

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    In the better bar bands I've played in, the singers picked the songs. They half-assed the songs they didn't pick, so those were typically the ones that got dropped!
     
  6. Turi

    Turi Member

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    None.
    I change the key if the singer can't sing it.
    I'm the singer btw and I choose what songs I'ma sing and what I'm not.
     
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    Find more songs with the hand drums, I think thats the best part of the tune.
     
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    Fortunately, I've never been in a band that had that problem.
    I typically won't join a band that does not have excellent vocals and harmonies, or a great drummer.

    Guitarists are a dime-a-dozen (I play guitar).

    We will change the key sometimes, but that is normally so we can string songs together and have them flow better.
     
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    There are a lot of songs that I've changed the keys to accommodate the singer (sometimes me). Occasionally that's a bad solution because the key change is too extreme or a riff needs to be rethought, and in those cases we just find something else to play. It's not like there is a shortage of good songs to play.

    Peace,
     
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    One of the bands I played in didn't have a lead singer. Everyone took turns except the bass player. If one person couldn't sing a tune we'd try the next guy. If no one could sing it we dropped it.
     
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    You should have done the NIN version, MJ would have nailed it.
     
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    As mentioned in post #3 sometimes it's the range within a song rather than just the upper limit.

    Played with a guy for years who would often drop things three, four, or even five steps. Made some bluegrass songs which we primarily played sound a bit draggy for some reason no matter how fast we flew. But he was a good singer, a really good frontman personality type, and fun to hang around. And he could play the absolute, ever-loving **** out of a banjo.

    My range changes during the day. I have to be careful not to rehearse and set my keys for new songs all early in the morning cause I've had trouble at a night-time gig more than once after kicking off a tune.
     
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  14. ripple

    ripple To keep fresh, keep capped & cold. Silver Supporting Member

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    I really wanted to add Tiny Dancer by Elton to our setlist, but our weak-ass singer couldn't hit the falsetto parts to save his life.


    BTW, the aforementioned weak-ass singer was moi.
     
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    One thing I've learned over the years, you have to be able to say NO to a song/band member if it's not good. Nothing worse than a lousy pitchy vocal.
    It's hard sometimes, but I just do it in a business manner. I tell my people up front "if it's not right, we just cant do it. If I'm trying to sing something that's not good, please tell me."
     
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    Plenty that I can think of. Early Police comes to mind immediately. I remember our singer at the time not being able to hit the high notes in "So Lonely." Generally, a lot of the high tenor chest voice material can expose range limitations of male vocalists quickly. Of course, we're talking about range here, and not timbre! That's a different story but equally relevant when choosing cover songs.
     
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    I must admit that I wouldn't mind being donkey-kicked by the SassyFit girl.
     
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    Yesh, you'll do better with "Talk Dirty to Me".
    Seriously.
     
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    Some songs are just never gonna work with the bandmates you have.

    Fact of life.

    -bEn r.
     
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    Yep. I've just started in a project where the drummer says, "We should only pick hit radio songs or at least only Top 100." Uh, ignore.
     
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