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Sorry, but I'm digging the V30s!!!

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I just picked up a Mesa Vertical Rectifier cab with 2 V30 Celestions...

Whoa! I knew speakers made a difference as I've tried plenty in the last 2 years...
G12H30,
Emi Wizard
G12-65
GBs
V30
Emi Black Powder
Mesa/Celestion 90s
Mesa/Eminence Black Shadow 150W
etc...

The V30 is the first to really get my Mark II into the crunch territory I have been looking for. They also lend a great, clear voice for expressive leads that cut well even in a loud band context>>>(Animal on drums).

They ARE NOT as appealing as the G1265 for slightly smoother tones/lead tones/cleans. I even liked the MC90s better for smooth lead and clean tones. The G12h30 styles are a little hollow to my ears, but great for crunchy and clean tones in their own right, I just didn't bond with the MarkIIC+ and these style speakers.

The V30s are it for tearing it up rhythm and biting leads. They seem to sit well in a rehearsal/band setting. Maybe not exactly what I'm looking for in a clean tone, or the perfect creamy lead tone, but for what they do... The Voice of Modern Rock Tone to my ears!!! YMMV?!?
:RoCkIn
 

Shon Kornfeld

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i love v30s as well my friend, dont feel ashamed because they are the speaker that a lot of peole in these parts love to hate.

now, mix em with the G12M and youll have the best of both worlds.... or, just get some Golds and be done with it :JAM
 

thegame

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+ 1 ! I love V30s too. Better yet, Hellatone 60Ls. My favourite speakers all have lots of mids; V30s, GBs, G1265s. Flat or neutral speakers don't do anything for me. I think guitar speakers should add character as the ones that don't (EVs, etc) just sound boring to my ear.
 

rooster

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I don't like them, but don't apologize for liking them! All speakers react differently with different amps, so one person's poison is another person's ... um.... Dr. Pepper? You found what you like, so put that "powered by Celestion" badge on your cabinet proudly and make a buncha noise.

rooster.
 

Steve Snider

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Love V30s . Over half my cabs(which are many) are V30 loaded or a mix of V30s and GBs.
 

jamison162

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Hey, somebody's got to love them or they wouldn't make them.

If I owned a bunch of cabs, I'm sure there would be a V30 in there somewhere. But they are not my first choice. I'll take the clarity and balance of a Heritage G12-65 any day.
 

gregc

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Don't you be so sorry! I don't like em at all, but good for you!
 

gdomeier

Gold Supporting Member
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I have one cab with gb's and one with v30/g12h30. There isn't much of a volume difference between the two cabs. Some, but not enough to bother me.

V30s sound great to me. No argument here. Slash and Hetfield love them too. And they sell a lot of them. So you've got company.

That said, tell me more about mixing GBs and V30s in the same cab.

I mix a V30 cab with a GB cab pretty regularly and love the combo. Doesn't make sense logically - V30s are louder, and they both hit the mids, and neither really nails down the low end. But the two cabs together sound great. Made me think of doing a 4x12 with 2 GBs and 2V30s. But since it seems like it logically shouldn't work, I haven't gone through the trouble yet. I feel like my brain's over-ruling my ears, but has anyone done this?
 

John Phillips

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It's true that they're probably picked by a lot of amp companies because of the 'demo factor' - they sound louder, more present and aggressive than most other speakers on the shop floor, so they help sell amps - but they certainly aren't as bad as you'll often hear around here :).

It's very true that there are some amps they don't really get along with (including some that have them fitted as stock) but for some, they're perfect.

I don't like one mixed with a G12M-25 in a side-by-side 2x12" - the cab sounds twisted towards the V30 side to me - but the actual tone combination sounds fine, and they should work well in a 4x12", probably with the 25s at the top so you hear their richness more and avoid the upper-mid beam of the V30s pointing up at you if it's an angled cab. I haven't actually tried it, but I like 25s and G12H-30s mixed like that.

That said, at a gig I played last year with my Mesa with V30s, I had to have the amp up at near head height for stage space reasons, and the V30s still didn't sound harsh even though they were right behind me. Those particular ones are very well broken-in though.
 

Lou Brush

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I've never understood the hate for V30s. While they may not be the speaker-of-choice for a tweed-style amp, for most applications they're great. Les Paul ---> Marshall w/V30s is a pretty darn good rock tone, imho.
 

jamison162

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Les Paul ---> Marshall w/V30s is a pretty darn good rock tone, imho.
Yeah that sounds pretty good; but they suck at cleans. I'm telling you guys, play a G12-65 for 2 weeks (clean and dirty) then go back to V30's. It's like night and day as far as clarity and openness. You don't know how bad they are until you really get to spend time with a better speaker. But, for those who love them...carry on, carry on.
 

Jimmydeez

Silver Supporting Member
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I have never liked any of the other speakers I tried. I have a Hellatone 60 in my Budda right now and it blows away the budda speaker that was in there.

I don't know what it is but every other speaker made my guitar dissapear in the mix.
 
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Yeah but you're just a drummer!!
lol!

the only wise one here... realizing this is a drummer's posting!?!
:crazyguy

But, seriously, nailing down guitar tone has been a SEVERAL YEAR FRIGGIN' PROCESS!!!!

you just beat the drums, but soooo much about guitar is based on interacting variables... not to mention developing playing technique!


Jamison:

my next job is to wire in the G1265 to the top position in this cab and I think I will finally have arrived! I'll post impressions as soon as I accomplish this...
 




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