Source Audio C4 Modular Synth Pedal

bassbrad

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@rsmith601, currently in the dropdown menu for envelopes there are two "ADSR - adjust attack/decay" shapes. These are both different from each other. Would it be possible to assign numbers to them so they can be distinguished from each other (as the other shapes are "ADSR 1, 2 3 4 5")?
Yes on this one too.
@rsmith601 are the Envelopes published anywhere, I need to visualize them as the is the last part of the C4 I have yet to grok so I can fully integrate my creativity to itz dotard potential.
 

Adamixoye

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Why don’t you just take your nemesis and Ventris out of the hub and use them like independent devises? If you have a usb midi host then your C4 is the same independent entity. I used to do this with my nemesis and Ventris. It became too many MIDI messages to keep up with while programming. It is much easier to have everything in the hub and on, then bring things in and out with my loop switcher.
That's what I'm doing with the Nemesis, I don't actually have a Ventris (that was hypothetical). But to keep this at least somewhat C4-focused per Roger's request, that won't be an option with the C4 because it doesn't do 5-pin MIDI, you need a Hub or other device. I already have a Hub for my Aftershock, it would be a bit silly to get another device to do this.
 

Gibs210

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So (1) create scene (2) use editor to delete pedal (3) scene functions independent of the pedal? That accomplishes what I'm asking for but via a much more inconvenient process.
You could do this in hub manager, I haven’t messed with it in Neuro editor much (I’ve got some bugs that are keeping me from doing anything beyond editing just the Gemini right now) so @LionVerse could be right on that feature not being present currently. the alternate way that should work is simply disconnect the cable from the hub, hit the scan button, make your adjustments and save. Should work in theory.
 

LionVerse

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You could do this in hub manager, I haven’t messed with it in Neuro editor much (I’ve got some bugs that are keeping me from doing anything beyond editing just the Gemini right now) so @LionVerse could be right on that feature not being present currently. the alternate way that should work is simply disconnect the cable from the hub, hit the scan button, make your adjustments and save. Should work in theory.
You can do this in the editor now. Jesse put it in release versions :aok
 
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As I save more and more presets I started to wonder how to organize it... I think I’m going to set up 4 ‘blocks’ and have it categorized by genre/type. Figured many of you are in the same boat- randomly saving cloud presets in numerical order mixed in with ones you’ve created. There seems to be 4 major categories; 1. Filters 2. Synth tones 3. Arpeggiator/Harmony/Octave 4. Sound effects and off the wall stuff.

How are you guys doing it?

I was thinking this:
1-6 - toggle presets (would copy favorites from below categories)
7-27 - Envelope Filters (Mutron, Qtron, Meatball, Spectrum-20 slots)
28-68 - Synth/Future Impact styles (40 slots, most used)
69-99 - Arpeggiators and harmonies (30 slots. Using Aeolian minor and double use for relative major)
100-128 Video Game/Sound Effects/Weird Stuff/The Rest (28 slots)

My list has become a mess at 70ish presets, all mixed up and unorganized. And it keeps growing lol.

Re-doing it and organizing would also be helpful for midi scrolling which should be coming via firmware. Then I can set 4 jump to sections on 2 latching Soleman buttons then use the other 2 for scroll up/scroll down. I’ve programmed a bunch of the midi 104 preset channels on my Soleman but that would be easy to change. About 5 panels with 4-8 presets each depending on how I configured it.
 

balsbury

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Question around the envelope feature. If the master knob is panned all the way to Env, but eh envelope is selected off in the voices then what is happening. I was playing with some community sounds that seemed to be triggered by some envelope but the envelope was selected as off in the voice settings.
 
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!!!! Everyone, please update your firmware to 1.12 ASAP. Do not use 1.11. There is a bug in it which will impact presets.!!!!
That's why I like checking here every now and then! Might have missed that. Enjoying the learning process of the C4, just wish I could spend more time on it. Damn,life is busy! Just posted a bunch of presets (the hook), mostly bass synth stuff,a few more lead orientated. There's still a lot I haven't had time to get into though.
 

Quatschmacher

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Question around the envelope feature. If the master knob is panned all the way to Env, but eh envelope is selected off in the voices then what is happening. I was playing with some community sounds that seemed to be triggered by some envelope but the envelope was selected as off in the voice settings.
I had that happen on some of my patches and reported it as a bug. Of you click on the patch name a second time, the correct settings get loaded.
 
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That's why I like checking here every now and then! Might have missed that. Enjoying the learning process of the C4, just wish I could spend more time on it. Damn,life is busy! Just posted a bunch of presets (the hook), mostly bass synth stuff,a few more lead orientated. There's still a lot I haven't had time to get into though.
Those are pretty sweet! Just burned Phashlight and Drive Angry to my newly organized preset banks and made Soleman panel setups for them.
 

bassbrad

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As I save more and more presets I started to wonder how to organize it... I think I’m going to set up 4 ‘blocks’ and have it categorized by genre/type. Figured many of you are in the same boat- randomly saving cloud presets in numerical order mixed in with ones you’ve created. There seems to be 4 major categories; 1. Filters 2. Synth tones 3. Arpeggiator/Harmony/Octave 4. Sound effects and off the wall stuff.

How are you guys doing it?

I was thinking this:
1-6 - toggle presets (would copy favorites from below categories)
7-27 - Envelope Filters (Mutron, Qtron, Meatball, Spectrum-20 slots)
28-68 - Synth/Future Impact styles (40 slots, most used)
69-99 - Arpeggiators and harmonies (30 slots. Using Aeolian minor and double use for relative major)
100-128 Video Game/Sound Effects/Weird Stuff/The Rest (28 slots)

My list has become a mess at 70ish presets, all mixed up and unorganized. And it keeps growing lol.

Re-doing it and organizing would also be helpful for midi scrolling which should be coming via firmware. Then I can set 4 jump to sections on 2 latching Soleman buttons then use the other 2 for scroll up/scroll down. I’ve programmed a bunch of the midi 104 preset channels on my Soleman but that would be easy to change. About 5 panels with 4-8 presets each depending on how I configured it.
I've done the same sort of thins myself with different blocks for sound types
 

Brockstar

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Ok so does the c4 ship with anything else like a USB cable and if so how long is it? If not, can someone show me the ends to the usb that is needed for it to work? I'm still thinking of getting one [by the way anyone wanna sell their yet via paypal? lol] but need to know if usb comes with it or am i gonna need to see if i have one that works for it or have to get one etc... thanks!
 

bigEbeer

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Ok so does the c4 ship with anything else like a USB cable and if so how long is it? If not, can someone show me the ends to the usb that is needed for it to work? I'm still thinking of getting one [by the way anyone wanna sell their yet via paypal? lol] but need to know if usb comes with it or am i gonna need to see if i have one that works for it or have to get one etc... thanks!

It take a USB Mini-B plug. I believe it includes a usb cable but not a super long one (I got one of the beta units, so I’m not positive what comes with the retail version)
 

jquanmusic

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Ok, quick question (or 3).

The "External Loop (Pre-Processing)" option is what I would use to detect pitch and envelope, run another pedal, and then affect the signal correct?

For some reason I'm not getting the routing for this one. It doesn't seem to work the way i thought it would. Any calcification would be great.

I'm attempting to put the C4 in the loop of a delay pedal. Will this option allow me to place the C4 in the delay's loop or the front of my chain on a per preset basis? This would obviously be ideal.

Thanks!
 

balsbury

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I am wondering if there is a way to send a cc midi message to scroll up and down presets on C4 and other SA pedals that can store multiple presets. Sorry if this was already covered, I'm just now working with my soleman and sending cc messages as we await hub scene support.

It would be really helpful to be able to scroll through the internal C4 or Ventris presets using Soleman, is there a way to do this I'm missing? Ultimately I'd like to scroll through saved sounds on the pedal and copy and paste into the separate 128 slots on the hub.

Similarly, is there a way to access the stored sounds on device via the mobile app? This would also be an easy way to quickly access the saved presets stored on device without needing a computer.
 
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