Vendor Source Audio C4 Synth Project

Discussion in 'Effects, Pedals, Strings & Things' started by rsmith601, Feb 16, 2018.

  1. LionVerse

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    I think at least Roger and Bob from SA are pretty big fans so I would guess that's a sound they want to nail.
     
  2. sumpe

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    Make it the size of the Ventris/Nemesis and have the MIDI in/out in there, with more knobs to tweak things in the fly rather than via the Neuro App - thats my 2 cents.
     
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    as cool as that would be, haven't they already stated it was going to be a smaller 4 knob with the 3 way switch?
     
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    ... i think that is the tendency, but because it is still being developed, i would be curious if the folks looking for the 4 knob version would not just the same have a bigger, though not that much bigger, box with more tweakability - personally I go to the Neuro Hub just to create a new sound or find a new one, but tweaking on the fly and saving presets via Midi on the fly are a big deal, for some a deal breaker!
     
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    for me personally, I want knobs & instant tweaks -- I don't want menus/screens/editors. But, that's just me...
     
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    totallY! - that is what the Stingray allowed for. thinking about a modernised version of that pedal with Midi would be totally great - I sent my stingray back because I could not justify getting a Hub just to have presets. more hands on tweakability (and Midi) suits my everyday needs many times over going to an App or a computer to get an inspiring sound on... just think about how much more one would use the pedal that way, ie. in live performance/improv/etc.
     
  7. rsmith601

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    We own a Mutron for this purpose. Also keep in mind there will be lots of published Jerry presets.
     
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    Super quacky and jerry in one box....

    (wallet just opened up)
     
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    If you and 10,000 other people would pay $500 per unit, I could afford to create such a product. Those are the numbers. The only way I know how to create this monster is on the back of 2 simple pedals.

    Edit: 7500 at $500 might do it.
     
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  10. Tri Pedal Reviews

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    Love my Microtron 3, so if it gets anywhere close to that I'm all about it.
     
  11. jquanmusic

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    For all of the tweakabilty that Source Audio provides that would require a box with like 50 knobs and 20 switches. I'm good with the app. Don't get me wrong, it would be cool, but my board would weigh more than me.
     
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    agreed... loved that Lunar Phaser, but I get lost in parameters. That being said, if I could pull a couple presets from the app & only control a couple parameters -- I'll be good with that.
     
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    The filter pedal should have a "Spud Boy" mode. :p
     
  14. sumpe

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    I got no way of telling who would jump on this, but since no one is close to doing something u guys can do with that size box, choosing knobs intelligently and having a wheel for some 12 options would be killer (I think). 500USD is a lot of money, so maybe its asking for too much.

    ... I think the Ventris/Nemesis size box is ideal. They also got a tons of features in the App/Neuro Hub thing but on the box there are tons to mess with as is. You have, in my opinion, way more flexibility to manipulate a sound once you 'burn it' there than with the smaller pedals (maybe it is just me... OR maybe if the knobs of a 4 button pedal could be assignable to modify the parameters you would want, *per preset*, that could be a good compromise...Have a Knob A, Knob B, Knob 1 and Knob 2 and Presets 1, 2 and 3 in the switch....
     
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    Just curious...since the Nemesis sells for $300 and Ventris for $400, why would this one end up costing more than those in that same format? It seems that the internal components would just be rehoused in a larger box with more knobs, since the smaller pedals are both capable of doing everything. I'm sure I am oversimplifying it though.
     
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    Ok, 12,000 at $400?
     
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    The research and development cost of the big box as well as the hardware cost is more than a small box. The market for delay and reverb is larger than for an octave/synth. Therefore, they need to sell the octave synth for a greater price to make up for the lack of demand or they will lose money on the product.
     
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    This is exactly what I was going to write! Yes, the R&D costs are everything in doing a big complicated digital pedal.
     
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    I responded quickly because you had explained it before. On the next pedal design thread I am going to create an FAQ so that newcomers can grab that info without weeding through everything.
     
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    Excellent idea!
     

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