speaker similar to JBL D130, but...

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  1. flatpole

    flatpole Member

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    Just wondering if anyone knows of a 15" speaker out there that sounds similar to a JBL D130, but takes overdrive a bit better. I love my JBL's, but if I had a nit to pick, I wish they were a bit less 'fizzy' with OD. I realize that this may be due to the aluminum dome, and I can usually make it work by removing some treble...but still.

    Am I dreaming here? Just wondering if anyone else has found speaker that can do this. Maybe an Altec? One of the Webers?
     
  2. cratz2

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    Hrmm... the D120Fs sound wonky with gain to my ears as do the Weber Californias, at least with aluminium caps. A buddy has a Silverface Vibrosonic (basically a Twin Reverb with a 1x15) with a D130 and i think it sounds pretty incredible with gain. It's probably my favorite Fender amp I've ever heard that sounds great clean and equally great with gain.

    If I were to go for a Weber 15" for great cleans and gain tones, I'd go with the Michigan. It really has a lot of low end though. I had one for a while but just didn't have a pressing need for a 15" speaker/cab. But it left enough of an impression that the next 1x12 Fender-ish combo I get, I'll absolutely order a 12" Michigan.

    The Michigan is Weber's take on the EV 12L/SRO type speaker. Big, robust, lots of bottom end, minimal breakup and is almost never harsh.
     
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    I've owned Weber Cali paperdomes, which have much less fizz.
     
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    JubileeMan 2555 Member

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    E130

    Ceramic version of your D130. I've always felt ceramic speakers work better for overdrive.

    Here are a pair of clips with overdrive:

    Fast Playing

    Noodling

    Not sure if this sound is less fizzy then what you're experiencing, but Its still a JBL so you know you're getting the same sonic footprint
     
  5. Drak

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    (Vintage) Electro-Voice 15W, all alnico monster-tone in that muthu with a 4" voice coil, same as the JBL's I believe.

    I can't remember if they come in different impedances, I had mine re-coned by Ted Weber years ago (bought it cheap with a ripped cone), it's 8 ohm now, no fizz.

    I believe they made an EV SRO 15 as well, but they're usually ceramic when you see them, but I think the SRO's were 8 ohm if memory serves me.


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    I have a showman 2x15 cab with JBL D130F's that were reconed at weber with paper cones that sound devine.
     
  7. flatpole

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    Thanks everyone for the replies. I think I am going to try out a cali with the paper dome, or send a blown d130 to weber for recone with the paper dome.. I'm almost positive it's the aluminum dome i'm hearing, I guess i'll find out.

    On another note, has anyone compared the Weber neo mag 15" to the Cali? What did you think?
     
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    dunno about 15" but i suggest altecs
     
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    These even come with LHDCs to really filter off sizzle and fizz. Also worth mentioning is the slightly Fane inspired Thames which has more of a British mid and hence takes distortion better. You can indeed opt for a harp-screen here as well should you want one.
     
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    I had a D131 reconed by Weber with their neo mag 12 kit and it sounds great.
     
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    They say the Weber Neo is more hifi-ish and not as woody sounding as the Cali.
     
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    I was searching for the same thing for years because every D130 I bought needed a recone or had been reconed and sounded ******. My search ended when I bought an Altec 418B. What I like most about it is that it will grind out some great overdrive. I use it for cleans with my D Style amps and I don't use a lot of gain so the overdrive is just a slight breakup. But, when I play around and dime the gain and volume, the speaker also handles it like a champ.
     
  13. Drak

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    An interesting sidenote:

    I also have a Weber P15NT (35W-ish?) which is a great speaker as well as the EV, and the weird thing about it is that when playing clean, it has all the trademark tones of a big 15".

    But as the overdrive level goes up, it starts responding more like a 12" speaker...I love that about that speaker, and the only speaker I've heard that does that.
     

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