Speakers for Marshall Sound

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  1. medwards1969

    medwards1969 Member

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    What speakers are better for Marshall, the Celestion Heritage G12H30 or what do you call them, the 25 watt Celestion greenbacks? I noticed Mohave is recommending the G12H30 in there amps but Germino is apparently using the 25 Watt Celestions. Which is better sounding? Which is more authentic? Which are just plain better? Or is it, one type of speaker for one Genre or time period and one for today?

    Is it better with a 4x12 or a 2x12 for this issue?

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  2. big mike

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    Of those two the regular 25 watt greenback will give you more mids and a woody character. Good speakers. The h magnet heritage are brighter and less mids.


    My personal favorite Marshall speaker is the Scumback m75
     
  3. Tread

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    I like the Celestion/Marshall G12C 25w Greenback ...Love'm !
     
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    I agree. I have one paired with a Reissue GB in a 2x12. The G12C is far superior. I wish I could find more of them.

    I also have a 4x12 filled with Reissue Greens and a 4x12 filled with the new G12-35xc. They are my new favorites.....like a little clearer/tighter Greenback.

    Not a fan of any H30 style speakers, Heritage/EVH Greenbacks, M65 Creambacks, or Scumbacks (tried both M75 and BM75).

    I would just fill a 4x12 with some Chinese Greenbacks and break them in.....hard to beat with a Marshall circuit.
     
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    RussB low rent hobbyist Silver Supporting Member

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    When I had my small Marshall's I ran them to a G12H clone by Weber & found it a bit too trebly.
     
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    And even more important, which era of Marshall sound are you going for.
     
  8. medwards1969

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    I am talking the generation of early hard rock Marshalls, the 50 and 100 watt amps that were more rock and roll amps, that came after the JTM45 which I think was a little darker and more blues amp. One thing I noticed about the JTM45 series, is that while they were famous for the Marshall sound, was that at the time of these amps' heyday, the later models that came after that were simply not available on the market yet! That is a significant observation to me, because in a way, the situation was that once the 1987 and 1959 plexi's came out, well those became all the rage for big stage sound, and these distorted more and were a little brighter, and the JTM45 series was then fell out of favor a bit, now am I wrong? Basically, the JTM45 series then became a 60's amp, while the later Marshall plexi's became the de rigueur 70s rock amp to have. The Hendrix sound was more the JTM45, the Zep sound the plexi's. Right?
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  9. Tread

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    ^^^ pretty much in a nutshell .
     
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    I actually love the speakers that come in the 1960 cabs -- the G12T-75s. I have a set of G12H70s in my 2061cx cab, but the 1960 sounds better to my ears. I love both, mind you.

    I have a set of Splawn Small Blocks in my AC30, and I would like to eventually change them over to Heritage Greenbacks. If I do, I'm going to give them a go in the 2061cx and see how I like them.
     
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    I bought a used Avatar Vintage 2x12 with 2 x V30s and it sounds great with my Marshall DSL100H for both high gain and more 70's Rock.
    Looks great, sounds great, is a lot lighter than a 4x12 and I got mine used from Craigslist for $250. And it fits in the trunk of my car :)

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    jpage Silver Supporting Member

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    I love the big magnet EV12Ls and Emi Delta Pros myself.
     
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    the heritage 20 watters sound real good to me
     
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    another vote for g12m 25 watt greenbacks
     
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    I'm not a fan of Greenbacks.
    They're great for loose open chords with some gain like for bluesy classic rock, and they compress well for leads.
    I like and play more modern higher gain stuff and love the early 80's JCM800 cab I have with vintage 75's. Fat and balanced sounding, I can get a lot of play out of the EQ settings on my '78 JMP MKII 2203 head.
     
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    Marshalls are Celestion, traditionally. I personally like to mix speakers. One of my favorite 1960 cabs had two Greenbacks and two G12T75 in it. Sounded really nice together.
     

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