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Spider V240 Prelim Review W Video

mattball826

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OK, so I have had the SV240 and FBV3 and G10T transmitter for a week.

Yes I made several tweaks to it as I did every modeler I get my hands on.. As usual starting from scratch in the editor and building the tone from there. The presets I built were basic Marshall type stuff, a Fender Twin type sound, and A Mesa Dual Rectifier which for me is the ultimate test for modelers since I am a huge Mesa amp user, and many modelers fail to pass my test lol.

Initial impressions I set aside on any unit I buy so I never really judge an amp or any piece of gear on factory presets. I learn the unit over a few days the see what I can get from it.

Spider V240 is a beast!! Do yourself a favor and dig in. The rewards are there. What I found most with the SV240 is you need to shape the tone of the amp post eq. USE THE POST EQ just like you do with high end modelers or floor units with that option.

At a level of about 2 (8 o'clock) position this amp gets loud. 10 o'clock position puts you in gig levels. Beyond noon is blow your windows out loud. This amp has a ton of headroom, and that is important because you can use that in relation to the needed tweaks for clean and dist type models.

Stereo - since I have used the IDC 100 I love the stereo sound. No, the 240V does not have a Super Wide like IDCore stereo, but is as good as any stereo amp out there. It really sounds good at lower mix levels too which a lot of modeling amps tend to have to have the mix levels boosted on the fx to carry the sound. You don't need high fx mixes for these fx to carry, and they don't have as much of a detracting factor if you do run them a bit high. The amp model still carries well.

Del FX Spillover!!!!! Holy Shiiiiiiii was that a nice touch. Kudos Line 6!! Few modeling amps have FX spillover.

Gate- Gate is an issue on every modeling amp and every pedalboard for any person that uses high gain. At stage volumes in a band nobody cares and few are listening for the gating clampdown as you chug notes. lol. I would put the gate about on par with what is in the Helix. It's pretty quiet even down to -40 Thold. Response is decent.

Distortions- there are many very good ones. Some also have tonal shaping options which is cool if you want a mid boost. I haven't experimented a whole lot with them so I'll reserve any further comment. What I have used more of was the Dis +EQ. I'm not even sure what pedal model that is lol. It works well is all I know.

FX/Mod - Tons available. Many great broad stereo FX. FX spillover on the FBV3 switching. I use these in stomp modes more than I do Per Preset. More to come. Too many to discuss. lol

Rev- Many very good ones. Basic Spring, Plate, Room stuff. Wish they had the more ethereal effects but for $500 I ain't bitching it doesn't have Strymon type effects.

Other Goodies- Drum machine, metronome, Pre recorded guitar loops for setting presets, levels, fx etc. You tweak while the amp plays. You can also use the looper. Many good practicing tools which I think are standard on all Spider V products. USB audio interface and options for Ipad, Android for Spider Remote edit. No Win or Mac editors which imo is going to harm some sales.

Tuner- nice accurate tuner and I compared it to my Polytune. It was dead on, and worked great in low tunings.

Wireless receiver for G10T transmitter. Charges the Xmitter from the amp. Cool!! Transmitter has a sleep mode too. Saves the battery if you are not playing after a few min, it shuts itself off. Nice!

Headphone jack- Good for practicing I guess. It doesn't have that great of sound though. Sort of like most modeling amps though. Don't expect much more than it is.

Headroom- 240V has tons. I would say this is louder than IDC150 and Katana 100 easily. The speakers do not fart out at cranked gig levels like many budget amps will. The speakers are Full Range and the Master Vol to me seems pretty much linear which I awesome. The same chug with the amp at 8:00 as it is at noon or above. LOUD!!

Amp Models- Basic stuff you see in the other Line 6 lineup. Difference being these had to be modified because the Helix with a pr of powered Yami's with the exact same models, cabs, sound a bit different. Again I will consider that being the Yami's are sort of scooped out as most PA FR cabinets are.

OK, I am a HUGE Mesa guy and I am always always let down by the Rect models on any modeler. High end, low end, doesn't matter. With the Spider V 240, color me impressed. All I did was start with the Recto and assigned cab. Went to the post eq and started shaping a few things. Then what I noticed was similar to my Mark amps and Recto's that you start to see a volume swing when adjusting treble on the amp, and the Post eq, works very similar with the model in this, as it does post EQ on a Mark V. I was familiar with that so the tweak didn't see as crazy. So, Line 6 apparently has this tonestack figured out. Next I cranked it up. That low clean Chug and mid-hf dist was there. Then it was just a few eq subtle changes to fit my guitar, and soon after I felt as close to Mesa sound as I can get from this amp. I'll post a video I made on Sunday to demo that sound.... others will follow.

FBV3- Very well thought out footswitch. Yes it's pricey, but it's road worthy for sure. Steel construction , nice switches, decent sized display, smooth Exp pedal. Presets and Stomps, Exp pedal with additional ext pedal jack if you want. Tuner, Preset name, Stomp type in display. It's about the size of a Tonelab LE.

I had tried the smaller Spider V versions but for me to get what I want, I need the headroom to build my sounds around. Same for other modeler amps I have tried. No beef= no interest for me. As for weight, I carry around Mesa amps and either an angled 212 or 412 with my Mark V so I'm used to dealing with heavy items. That said, the Spider V 240 is fairly lightweight. 40 lbs maybe. My amp head weighs more. I'm also a fan or stereo sound and sort of spoiled in that way, so the 240 fits that need.

Spider V, unlike its competitors uses AMP models of various Mfg vs unknown preamps that more or less cover clean crunch and lead common to Marshall and Fender. Many are based on their own mfg'd amps. As much I like that, I miss the options of an actual modeler. The issues with modelers was always amplification of that tone you get in the floor or rack unit. Once amplified, something was always amiss so you tweak or give in and say good enough.

After a week of digging in and seeing what this SV240, FBV3 and G10T can do, I am happy to say I can find a lot of great tones in this amp. Loud ? It's deafeningly loud!! Passes my Mesa test so far. Jammed with the band and they are again happy to hear the Mesa type sound vs trying to get that with the IDC. Our drummer is loud and the amp blew him away and had plenty to spare.

Now they just need a Windows Mac editor. I hate tweaking on a phone or tablet. I want my 32" screen !! lol

I have been using Virtual Box and Android 6 emulator and it works to a degree. Still would love to see a proper Mac/PC editor with assigns for FBV etc. Makes life so much easier...

As for that Glen dude that smashed the SV30, it got him some views, but he should have known better than to base that on factory presets. That's like basing a final recording on just dry tracks without any mixing or mastering glue in post.



More to come...........


TLDR version; Amp is loud, tweakable, better with post eq shaping (internal eq block post amp), FX are glorious and plentiful, tons of great front end distortion models, plethora of amp and cab models with mic type, position, and room fx... so yeah.. more to tweak if you want to. It's really LOUD to use in any type band. You can get deep tight Chug and Kerrang out of it for high gain Boogie and similar amps. Big check mark there!! Factory presets like just about every digital amp will be very hit or miss. DIG IN!! The sounds are there.
 
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Jchrisf

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Great review matt.. very thorough! Cool thing about the iPad app is there was an update yesterday and my iPad let me know and I easily got it installed. It is easy to update the firmware on the amp as well with the iPad app. The app does all the work.

Looking forward to seeing the vids
 

jageya

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why do you have it only for a week? Sounds like you may want to keep it for good.
 

Frank Ritchotte

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why do you have it only for a week? Sounds like you may want to keep it for good.

I think he said he HAS had it for a week... And great review man. As a guy who sits literally next to the Engineer who worked on it (so I have heard this thing for months) I agree with everything you said, including the fact that anything above 9 O clock is LOUD!
 

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Great review man. I have the 60 with wireless and really like it. It's not really for gigging but sounds great in a 15x12 study and reduces the usual clutter of computer, audio and interface cables, pedals and footswitches significantly.

I was really pleased that the USB interface with the PC includes ASIO support and sends audio in both directions making it really convenient if you like to practice with Yousician or Rocksmith through the amps own FR speakers. The backing tracks are controlled with master volume and you mix in your guitar with the EQ so it works out really well.

I'm tempted by the pedalboard but it costs as much as the 60. I take it the color illuminated rings around the switches match the FX buttons on the amp for ease of use? Or can be adjusted.
 
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Jchrisf

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Great review man. I have the 60 with wireless and really like it. It's not really for gigging but sounds great in a 15x12 study and reduces the usual clutter of computer, audio and interface cables, pedals and footswitches significantly.

I was really pleased that the USB interface with the PC includes ASIO support and sends audio in both directions making it really convenient if you like to practice with Yousician or Rocksmith through the amps own FR speakers. The backing tracks are controlled with master volume and you mix in your guitar with the EQ so it works out really well.

I'm tempted by the pedalboard but it costs as much as the 60. I take it the color illuminated rings around the switches match the FX buttons on the amp for ease of use? Or can be adjusted.
The first and last buttons (1st is Compression and last is reverb or 1 and 5) on the amp in FX mode cannot be adjusted and the middle three can (listed fx1, fx2, fx3)... so I would assume the pedal is the same way and just shows the color of the FX for the patch so you can tell by color... Whatever you program the three in the middle will be their color.

Here is how the first two presets are configured from the factory:

01A Arachnid Rhythm Basics Classic Plexi rhythm for Mid-gain Rock. Effects include Classic Distortion on FS2 (Stomp), Chorus on
FS3 (Mod) short Delay on FS4 (Delay) and Reverb on FS5. Use FS1 (Function 1) for volume boost for
solo. Recommended Pickup type: Humbucker Bridge.

01B Web Lead Basics Modern High Gain lead tone for Rock or Metal solos. Effects include Boost+EQ on FS2 (Stomp), Double
Bass on FS3 (Mod) short Delay on FS4 (Delay) and Reverb on FS5. Use FS1 (Function 1) for volume
boost for solo. Recommended Pickup type: Humbucker Bridge/Neck.

FX LAYER - FX1, FX2, and FX3 are the assignable Smart FX with colors: Yellow for Distortion or Compression; Blue for Modulation; Green for Delay; Purple for Pitch and Synth. COMP can be used as a volume booster or leveler. REVERB can be turned up/down to taste and there is a variety of models to choose from. These effects can be assigned from the Edit Menu or by using the SPIDER Remote app.
 
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Jchrisf

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Also keep in mind that Musician's Friend has a 17% off coupon and if you sign up for their rewards plan (it is free) you get an additional 8% in rewards points. I might upgrade to the 240 someday for stereo :)
 

mattball826

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I think he said he HAS had it for a week... And great review man. As a guy who sits literally next to the Engineer who worked on it (so I have heard this thing for months) I agree with everything you said, including the fact that anything above 9 O clock is LOUD!
Tell him Kudos for the fine work especially on the Boogie models. That sound is hard to come by with a lot of modelers, especially once amplified. Being from the land of Boogie (3 Marks, DR and Roadking), I found it really cool that once implementing the post eq (akin to the Boogie V graphic) the model reacted similarly to the way the real amp would. None of my modelers do that. First thing I noticed was the treble control on the amp when adjusted fully then back some with my PEQ active (in basic V shape) in post affected some volume range as you decreased the treble. Weird to a lot of people, but to me and a couple guys that were messing around with this over the weekend, we were familiar with that reaction (some call the G spot lol). Even the new 2C+ does that. It's Boogie wizardry suppose. lol

Anyway "amp like" points earned
 
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mattball826

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Great review man. I have the 60 with wireless and really like it. It's not really for gigging but sounds great in a 15x12 study and reduces the usual clutter of computer, audio and interface cables, pedals and footswitches significantly.

I was really pleased that the USB interface with the PC includes ASIO support and sends audio in both directions making it really convenient if you like to practice with Yousician or Rocksmith through the amps own FR speakers. The backing tracks are controlled with master volume and you mix in your guitar with the EQ so it works out really well.

I'm tempted by the pedalboard but it costs as much as the 60. I take it the color illuminated rings around the switches match the FX buttons on the amp for ease of use? Or can be adjusted.
Pretty sure the FBV Express works with these and are only $99

Yeah the FBV3 is color coded which is cool. Nice bright LED's. I took my Cob LED pars set to white light and shined it on the pedal. You can still see the rings in bright light so that is cool.
 

pber2025

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Thanks for taking the time to do a review and for putting the video together. It`s really nice to see demos of some heavier tones done by people from this forum.

I have a 240 on order from Amazon Canada (cheapest price I could fine up here, but it is back order so I guess Santa did put me in the naughty list this year... I just ordered the amp no G10T or FBV3 but your video makes me wonder if I should add the FBV3 and/or the G10T to my letter to Santa. Looks like both add-up to a very nice setup.
 

mattball826

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Thanks for taking the time to do a review and for putting the video together. It`s really nice to see demos of some heavier tones done by people from this forum.

I have a 240 on order from Amazon Canada (cheapest price I could fine up here, but it is back order so I guess Santa did put me in the naughty list this year... I just ordered the amp no G10T or FBV3 but your video makes me wonder if I should add the FBV3 and/or the G10T to my letter to Santa. Looks like both add-up to a very nice setup.
Yeah I heard these amps are selling out fast. Our GC had 5 240's on Thurs and they were gone Sat. They have 1 V120 floor model left out of 10 amps they got in just over a week ago.

Mine was on B/O after they supposedly filled 25 amp orders on the V240. I got mine sooner than the Dec 23 mark due to a cancellation. Your local stores may have some in stock. Some of the web retailers in the US ran some coupon specials and those amps moved fast.
 

pber2025

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Amazon in Canada is 50$ less expensive ON THE 240 then the only other dealer who has some 120 and 240 in stock in some stores ) (Long & McQuade). My local dealer told me that since Long & McQuade are owned by Yorkville who also distributes Line6 in Canada they get first pick. He will not get any 120 or 240 before mid January. Since I knew I was going to have to wait one way or the other I went with Amazon and got 20% off on top of the 50$ rebate because I signed up for Amazon Prime (something the kids wanted anyway! :) . So now I`m just jealous of all you guys....! So keep those demos coming...
 

jageya

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The first and last buttons (1st is Compression and last is reverb or 1 and 5) on the amp in FX mode cannot be adjusted and the middle three can (listed fx1, fx2, fx3)... so I would assume the pedal is the same way and just shows the color of the FX for the patch so you can tell by color... Whatever you program the three in the middle will be their color.

Here is how the first two presets are configured from the factory:

01A Arachnid Rhythm Basics Classic Plexi rhythm for Mid-gain Rock. Effects include Classic Distortion on FS2 (Stomp), Chorus on
FS3 (Mod) short Delay on FS4 (Delay) and Reverb on FS5. Use FS1 (Function 1) for volume boost for
solo. Recommended Pickup type: Humbucker Bridge.

01B Web Lead Basics Modern High Gain lead tone for Rock or Metal solos. Effects include Boost+EQ on FS2 (Stomp), Double
Bass on FS3 (Mod) short Delay on FS4 (Delay) and Reverb on FS5. Use FS1 (Function 1) for volume
boost for solo. Recommended Pickup type: Humbucker Bridge/Neck.

FX LAYER - FX1, FX2, and FX3 are the assignable Smart FX with colors: Yellow for Distortion or Compression; Blue for Modulation; Green for Delay; Purple for Pitch and Synth. COMP can be used as a volume booster or leveler. REVERB can be turned up/down to taste and there is a variety of models to choose from. These effects can be assigned from the Edit Menu or by using the SPIDER Remote app.
so is the idc40h retired now?
 

warwick5s

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That Glenn jagoff and the like are piling on the Spider V after reviewing the one with the teeny-tiny 8" speaker and the stock presets. It's almost like they already had the conclusion they were going to smash the thing for video views and worked backwards from there. Yes, that one still sounds like a tiny practice amp, because it IS a tiny practice amp. What a surprise.

The 120 and 240 are really impressive for what they are, though, especially when you have the whole setup with the FBV3 and the G10. The XLR outs eliminate the USB control/record problem although a desktop editor would be better for most people.

That said, I think if you're looking at the 30 or 60 an Amplifi probably suits you better.
 

Jchrisf

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That Glenn jagoff and the like are piling on the Spider V after reviewing the one with the teeny-tiny 8" speaker and the stock presets. It's almost like they already had the conclusion they were going to smash the thing for video views and worked backwards from there. Yes, that one still sounds like a tiny practice amp, because it IS a tiny practice amp. What a surprise.

The 120 and 240 are really impressive for what they are, though, especially when you have the whole setup with the FBV3 and the G10. The XLR outs eliminate the USB control/record problem although a desktop editor would be better for most people.

That said, I think if you're looking at the 30 or 60 an Amplifi probably suits you better.
I have three 4x12s in my practice room and this little 30 just kills in the same space. It has plenty of bottom end and fullness. Every other 1x12 I have tried was too thin... this little 8" is thick in my 14x14' space.
 

mattball826

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That Glenn jagoff and the like are piling on the Spider V after reviewing the one with the teeny-tiny 8" speaker and the stock presets. It's almost like they already had the conclusion they were going to smash the thing for video views and worked backwards from there. Yes, that one still sounds like a tiny practice amp, because it IS a tiny practice amp. What a surprise.

The 120 and 240 are really impressive for what they are, though, especially when you have the whole setup with the FBV3 and the G10. The XLR outs eliminate the USB control/record problem although a desktop editor would be better for most people.

That said, I think if you're looking at the 30 or 60 an Amplifi probably suits you better.
That Glenn guy has some decent videos and some meh ones, but it was pretty dumb on his part to do what he did. I get the value of trying to make a video that gets a lot of hits for comedy, but he seemed to imply every version of the SV was going to be the same. He couldn't be further from wrong there.

Some people had a Gorilla amp for a starter. Students getting their hands on a SV, no matter the size version will be far better off. I bought a SV60 and G10T for my 14 y/o nephew who has been playing a beat up Rocktron student amp his Mom bought for $25. Equivalent to the Estaban amp. He's really become a decent player and now using Le Pou plugins and Reaper.

My wife has been buying him sweatshirts for years. This year was my turn. She about shii when I told her
 

jageya

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I get his point though.The drama is over the top but some guys are just like that. I am sure he wouldnt destroy a 240v..lol...I value all opinions even if the person rubs me the wrong way. Every one except that tone king guy on youtube. Cant stand that guy-either he owns a store or just hoards gear but he smoozes his way into namm and he flashes the devil horns like a stupid kid way too much.
 

Antmax

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The thing I found annoying about the video with the Spider V smashing was that he picked two of the worst presets to emphasize his hate for the amp. I skipped through the Puppet Master because it was way too high gain and noisy while the Chop Suey one was just flat and one dimensional. I went and rechecked it out and it used a minuscule amount of small room reverb that sounded like a fuzz can in an airing cupboard. There are MUCH better presets if you want to give a well rounded impartial opinion.

Looking at his other Line 6 videos it's obvious that he doesn't like the brand and a big part of the video was most likely geared at generating some publicity by being controversial.
 






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