SRV's Testify is a COVER? Of a track with the Isley Brothers and Hendrix? What?

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  1. LoopyBullet

    LoopyBullet Supporting Member

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    I really didn't know this until tonight. That's what I get for being a dumb 25-year-old. Wow!

     
  2. JJ Fux

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    Me neither and I am older than you! LOL

    Wow, that performance is... too amazing.
     
  3. Sweetfinger

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    Back in the old days you could look at the songwriting credits on the LP or CD. If I found a song that wasn't by the artist, I'd find out who wrote it. Looking at writing credits is how you find out that Bryan Adams wrote songs for Kiss and Krokus.

    Other SRV tunes that were not written by him:
    Texas Flood
    Tell Me
    Mary Had A Little Lamb
    The Things That I Used To Do
    Cold Shot
    Tin Pan Alley
    Voodoo Child, of course
    Hideaway
    Look At Little Sister
    Give Me Back My Wig
    Come On
    Lookin Out The Window
    Gone Home
    Change It
    You'll Be Mine
    Superstition
    I'm Leaving You (Commit A Crime)
    Willie The Wimp
    Let Me Love You Baby
    Leave My Girl Alone
    Love Me Darlin
    Boot Hill
    Sky Is Crying
    Little Wing
    Wham
    May I Have a Talk With You
    Close To You
    Chitlins Con Carne
    Life By The Drop
    In The Open
    They Call Me Guitar Hurricane
    All Your Love I Miss Loving
    Shake For Me
    Letter To My Girlfriend
    COD
    Iced Over (Collins Shuffle)
    Taxman, of course
    Pipeline, of course

    Songs that were co-written with Doyle Bramhall:
    Dirty Pool
    The House Is Rockin
    Tightrope
    Wall Of Denial
    Scratch N Sniff

    Crossfire shows a co-write credit with Bill Carter and Ruth Ellsworth, who also wrote "Willie The Wimp".
     
  4. ledzep618

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    Hendrix played on the motown circuit for a while before striking out on his own. Most notably with the Isley brothers. Once you know it becomes obviously clear its Hendrix when you listen to the little licks he throws in there.

    I remember being surprised by how few of SRVs songs were actually composed by him, but then again, that was actually quite common for the bluesmen of the 60's and 70's...
     
  5. ELmiguel

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    The titles are the same but I don't hear that much similarity.

    To me it just sounds like the Isley Bros. copied their own song starting at 2:00 (above video) and added different lyrics which was very common in the 50's and 60's.
    Compare that to below.

     
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  6. CharlyG

    CharlyG Play It Forward

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    For me, when an artist does an already written and performed song, it is more than a "cover". It usually is their interpretation/arrangement, and once in a while it even works better than the original. Covers are what bar bands do.
     
  7. mc5nrg

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    Early Parliament/Funkadelic IIRC.
     
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    And "Little Richard".. Little Richard let him go because he said Hendrix was too "wild" and often upstaged him .. lol..! This coming from the most flamboyant entertainer around. Well him and Liberace..

     
  9. macatt

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    Actually Stevie didn't write any part of "Crossfire"
    Except for the bass line, it was written entirely by Bill and Ruth.
    (I play guitar with Bill Carter)

    S Mac
     
  10. Sweetfinger

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    But the bassline IS the song!!! :p

    I was just looking at songwriting credits, which often don't tell the whole story. I am reminded of Jim Vallance's story about writing a song for Kiss. Gene Simmons said they loved the song, but it needed one more verse.... that only Gene could write, or they weren't going to use the song after all. That was apparently a very enlightening moment for him as a songwriter and how the industry sometimes worked.

    An aside: Do you find it challenging to solo over "Willie The Wimp"? I used to do the song a few bands ago in the 90s. I love the song, the drum groove, the mental imagery it conjures, everything about it, except the moment that you have to solo. It's just a difficult slog for me to "say" anything over the rhythm figure. Also, it's a tougher song to do without the piano.
     
  11. FeloniousBishop

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    First thing I hear is this - go to around :20 or so

     
  12. tcdrover

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    Interesting, I knew about the rest of those but I thought Stevie wrote

    Cold Shot
    Tin Pan Alley

    Now I just gots to hear the originals. ;)
     
  13. Tiny Montgomery

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    You're thinking of the Chitlin Circuit. Motown was a record label, not a "circuit," and the Isleys were on their own T-Neck Records when Jimi was playing with them. They were on Motown for a short time, after that, though.
     
  14. stratzrus

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    Nope.

    That's a very different tune.

     
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    Yeah, The bass line sets the groove but there is also the melody,the lyrics and a bridge.

    In "Willie The Wimp" I just play what ever pops into my head at the moment.
    You can keep going back to the signature lick like a verse or not. No biggie.

    Playing songs with the writer gives you a lot of creative 'license'
    Were not doing cover versions you know :)
     
  16. rwe333

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    Tune was credited to George Clinton et al. on SRV's original "Texas Flood" vinyl...
     
  17. stratzrus

    stratzrus Philadelphia Jazz, Funk, and R&B Supporting Member

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    Doesn't matter.

    I just listened to the SRV Testify and there's no way that's Testify by Parliament. Check the clip I posted.

    From Wikipedia:
     
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    Just pointing it out, not saying it's correct.
    I never heard it as the same tune.
     
  19. stratzrus

    stratzrus Philadelphia Jazz, Funk, and R&B Supporting Member

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    Actually, I'm glad you pointed it out. I never knew that the song had been mis-credited until I looked it up based on your post. :)
     

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