Startling Torres amp revelation

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  1. jzucker

    jzucker Supporting Member

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    So, I've got this Torres Princeton which is a small practice amp. 2 El 84 class a power section, princeton reverb preamp, jenson 10" speaker. I'm practicing through it while watching pittsburgh dominate the Broncos...

    And I realize that this is the best sounding amp I have.

    I know folks hate Torres stuff and maybe it's crap but the idea of matching a fender preamp with verb up with a class A EL84 output section is a winner. I know some other folks flirted with this design? (Tophat, etc...)

    Anyone other than Torres make a 4xEL84 type amp with a fender preamp section (including reverb) ?

    I need at least 30 watts to take the thing out of the practice-amp realm...
     
  2. jpage

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    Josh is building me an 18watt el84 amp, I can't imagine why he wouldn't do one with 4xel84. Shoot him an email, he's pretty responsive.
     
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    Bruno UG 30 is essentially a Pro front end, into an EL84 quartet...
     
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    Dan modded my Fender Rivera era concert 2x10 and it sounds huge. All of my friends can't believe it when they hear it.

    I think some of Dan's work is awesome.
     
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    You get sideways with one or two people and all of a sudden you're labeled a prick. The beauty of the internet age.
     
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    Also by the way my friend built one of his tweed champ kits. We recorded some of it and it was great. It sounded awesome.
     
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    LOL Ain't that the truth.
     
  8. jzucker

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    I didn't see anything with reverb.
     
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    Try the Victoria Victorilux el84 model. Very pretty sounding amp.
     
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    Are the doors blown off the Pritchard?
     
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    Nope. All 3 of my amps are great.

    The pritchard is a wonderful amp. Extremely versatile, light weight, built like a tank, wonderful fendery tones without the hassle of tubes. Loves pedals like my Zendrive and the Xotic effects.

    The Allen Old Flame nails the classic SRV tones and has the tube reverb that is really the only thing missing from the Pritchard. Also loves pedals.

    And my Peavey Transtube bandit excels at clean jazz tones with a sweet presence that's suprisingly similar to a tube amp. Too bad it's so freakin' heavy.

    The torres is a surprise because it's sweeter sounding than any of my other amps. However, it's a true practice amp (probably about 15 watts) and the jenson speaker doesn't seem to hold up well with my zendrive. It would probably make a good recording amp for blues tones ala Scott Henderson Dog Party stuff.

    Too bad David Allen is not more adventurous. An Old Flame with EL84s would be killer.
     
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    The Laney VC30 combos are Fenderish preamps and 4 x EL84 power amp; with reverb and an effects loop. The reverb is kinda sprongy sounding, as it uses a short tank. Has a footswitchable crunch channel w/ a mastervolume.

    They look like (and are marketed as) a poor mans Vox AC30. I like mine as a nice grab and go combo.
     
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    The Savage Glas 30 is generally thought of as a Voxy amp but I think there is much more tweed and marshall preamp sounds in there myself. it really is a very versatile amp!
    ArnieZ
     
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    the 4 x EL84 victoria victorilux is about 30 watts and very princeton like.
     
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    Does it have verb?
     
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    I'd love one but I don't think I can swing the $3000 price.
     
  17. Jon Silberman

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    Not sure what "sideways with one or two people" actually means but my understanding is that Torres' poor reputation in many circles is the result of his penchant for irreversibly modding (drilling holes in, for example) classic, irreplaceable, vintage amps.

    Contrast an amp builder like Pete Cage. From Pete's website: "Note: I will not deface or irreversibly modify classic amplifiers, so don't ask."

    It's a free country, people can ask for whatever they want with their own gear. If you own the Mona Lisa, you can ask the guy down the block to paint a mustache on it.

    Just don't expect unanimous respect.
     
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    I don't think a BF fender is a mona lisa. If you own it you have the right to drill holes in it if you want to. Same with any other amp. I respect Pete for his position but I also respect the right of each individual to choose. I don't think that's why Torres has a bad rep anyway.
     
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    how about the dr z maz 38? Does it have the same vibe?
     
  20. drbob1

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    Of the EL84 amps I've owned, I'd definitely give the nod to the UG30. It wasn't my cup of tea, but for a Fender preamp (Pro) into a cathode biased power section with a KILLER reverb, it can't be beat...
     

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