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Strat ?

Discussion in 'Guitars in General' started by troyr_2000, May 17, 2011.

  1. troyr_2000

    troyr_2000 Member

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    If I put say a hot rails or other sc sized humbucker in my strat do I lose all of the sound position 2 has? Not like the sc in the bridge but damn I love position 2.
     
  2. buddastrat

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    Yes, it will change. You could wire the hot rails to auto split in that position, it will help. But that pickup is still pretty hot/middy. It's always a compromise.
     
  3. whaiyun

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    I like the 2nd position (as well as the first) of my strat loaded with a Fralin Steel Pole 43.
    It's not as quacky because of the mid-forward bridge pickup but its got some sweet rhythm tones to it, almost like a jazzmaster pickup ...
     
  4. zul

    zul Supporting Member

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    It will always be a compromise I think. I'm usually on pos 5 single, 4 for quack, and 1 for bridge humbucker, with pos 1 being the most prevalent. I have literally tried close to 50 different pickups for that strat bridge pos in the last 30 years. Tried a bunch of different wiring schemes too to get pos 2 to sound right. For the most part pos 2 needs to see only the single coil from the bucker to achieve trad quack. The problem I encounter is that most humbuckers that have a decent single coil output usually are pretty hot in series mode and that is a pos I am not willing to compromise on.

    Presently the set I have is medium output with '54 pro neck, AVn 62 mid and a Norton bridge. The Norton is the sound that I have been after for all these years so it has to work with whatever middle pickup I decide on. I am set with pos 5, 4, and 1 and now, even pos 3 too since the kinman sounds great when I took it off the tone pots. The two tone knobs are wired to the bridge and neck with the middle naked so that pos 2 and 4 are not loaded with both tone pots. I have a triple switch for the bridge bucker so pos 2 may see series ,single or parallel modes. On Pos 2, single has the best quack, parallel is less quack with fuller bass, but series is a little peaky.

    Make sure you get the polarity right. I tend to not prefer RPRW middle so my kinman mid isn't. There are a bunch of wiring schemes to look at and I learned a lot by listening to how others like walterw, husky (Suhr) and Anderson approach this conundrum. I have a decent enough pos 2 now but it nowhere near the cluck I get on pos 4, but since this is my preference anyway, and I can live with this compromise. I might also be able to use pos 2 more if I change my approach by not treating it as an alternate cluck tone. But I am constantly fudging this pos to focus further, but more than content with the set and pos 2 for now is merely a leisurely labor of love.
     
    Hoping that this thread might uncover something overlooked.​
     
    Last edited: May 17, 2011

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