Suhr meets Dr Z...

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  1. JohnM

    JohnM Member

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    Well, I had an apples to oranges comparison this weekend...played around with a Dr Z Stangray after hearing some good things about it.
    I had my Suhr OD50 sitting at home right next to it, hooked up ready to go, so I used it as a comparison. Not the same amp at all...but interesting. The Z is a EL84 30watt vox-ish kinda thing...this one had the celestion gold 12" spkr. I ran the Suhr through a single eminence red/white/blue 12". Just comparing the cleans.

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    Suhr
    Suhr OD50

    DrZ
    DR Z Stangray

    The Z is a cool amp Maybe a bit outclassed by the Suhr.:rolleyes:

    On a related note, my 65 Dlx Rev was already at the gig so I had to do an "on the job" comparison :D. The Z isn't as mid-punchy as the Dlx when cranked. The Z had tons of bottom-end and the cut knob added tons of bite (too much for my tele!) but the Fender was whipping up on it in the mids. The Z got a bit loose & muddy when distorted...vs. my dlx which stays pretty tight (it's not totally stock...)
    I can't really say what the Z sounds like...sorta like a AC30/DC30/something all it's own?. Can get VERY bright though...gotta watch the cut knob.
     
  2. BobbyRay

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    Both sounded fantastic! Different, but great!

    Very tasting picking brother!:AOK
     
  3. Jason_86_951

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    I liked the Suhr quite a bit more, but the DrZ sounded good as well.

    Your playing smoked in both clips!
     
  4. Teleplayer

    Teleplayer Silver Supporting Member

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    John - nice chops.

    I think that's the way a Z is supposed to sound. I am not a fan of Z's amps, but you made both pieces sound good.
     
  5. JohnM

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    Yeah - definitely different but that's all I had to compare. The Z held up pretty good on the gig but I'm such a Fender head:rolleyes:
     
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    Both amps sounded good.
    Playing sounded great.
     
  7. 3 Mile Stone

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    Those were Telefantastic dizzying licks there cowboy!

    Oh and the Suhr was cooking I agree.
     
  8. ecbluesman54

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    Great playing thanks for the post!
     
  9. bosstone

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    Now try hooking up the Suhr amp to the Z cam and vis versa and seeing the difference. That would be a good way to know what amp/speaker is responsible for what sound.
     
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    Nice pickin!

    The Z sounded thinner, might need to be cranked up to really shine.
     
  11. Madison

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    Great clips, John! The Stang Ray produces the least amount of mids in the Z line. Lots of bottom and chimey highs, but you'll find more mids in the Maz's, Rt 66, etc. The Mazerati has a good amount of mid character going on too.
     
  12. The Last Rebel

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    I liked the Z more. They're both nice amps, but the Suhr was almost too tight, and I liked the thinness that came from the Z.
     
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    great playing!!!! holy crap, that was awesome....

    i liked the suhr better. i have an od50 classic+ and a dr z maz jr. i find the dr z cleans to be as good as the suhr, but certainly of a different flavor. i find the maz is more like a fender than the stangray in your clip.
     
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    Definitely try the cab swap to hear the difference of the speakers. In my experience those two speakers are very, very different beasts, and both impart quite a bit of thier own voice to things.
     
  15. JohnM

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    Did that...didn't record it though...I will say the Z sounded better through the eminence though!


    At low level, I agree...liked the Z's defined top...but at gigging volume it just didn't keep up. Ended up sounding too brittle. All Lows and highs...no mids as Madison mentioned.

    I have used a Z maz38 SR and it definitely has more mids, although it still has a similar top end.Most of the Z stuff does.

    At 'bedroom' level, that Stangray had a very nice feel to it, nice and forgiving clean sound. Spongy and bouncey...Nice harmonics.
    I just punish the hell out of amps on gigs, so that's where the el84 amps always die for me. Fenders seem to take that punishment well.
    I could see the combo of the dlx and stang being a good pair.
     
  16. JohnM

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    Oh and for the super-curious, the settings on the Suhr were:
    Gain - 3
    Bass - 2
    Middle - 3
    Treble - 3
    Vol - 2

    And the Stangray:
    Volume - 2
    tone - 12 o'clock (5?)
    cut - almost all the way off...maybe almost 1
     
  17. justonwo

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    Um . . . I have one comment. You're really friggin good on guitar. Oh, and I liked the Suhr much more.
     
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    I've got an RxJR, and I can't imagine an amp with less mids (that still sounded good.) The clips I've heard of the Stangray all sound thicker & rounder (more mids?) than the Rx Family to me.
     
  19. John55

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    Absolutely great playing and tone to go with it! The Suhr is miles ahead of the Stangray, IMO. The notes sound so smooth, almost silky and have a lot of body around them. Your clip pretty much decided the issue for me about whether to get a Classic+, I gotta have some of that!
     
  20. Fingers

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    That's some beautiful pickin' there.
    And one more vote for the Suhr.
     

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