Well, I had an apples to oranges comparison this weekend...played around with a Dr Z Stangray after hearing some good things about it. I had my Suhr OD50 sitting at home right next to it, hooked up ready to go, so I used it as a comparison. Not the same amp at all...but interesting. The Z is a EL84 30watt vox-ish kinda thing...this one had the celestion gold 12" spkr. I ran the Suhr through a single eminence red/white/blue 12". Just comparing the cleans. clips: Suhr Suhr OD50 DrZ DR Z Stangray The Z is a cool amp Maybe a bit outclassed by the Suhr. On a related note, my 65 Dlx Rev was already at the gig so I had to do an "on the job" comparison . The Z isn't as mid-punchy as the Dlx when cranked. The Z had tons of bottom-end and the cut knob added tons of bite (too much for my tele!) but the Fender was whipping up on it in the mids. The Z got a bit loose & muddy when distorted...vs. my dlx which stays pretty tight (it's not totally stock...) I can't really say what the Z sounds like...sorta like a AC30/DC30/something all it's own?. Can get VERY bright though...gotta watch the cut knob.