Synergy modular thread

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  1. stratamania

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    @djd100 I thought it would work well. Good to see. Do you use the Axe Ultra for FX or also for amp sims?
     
  2. Serious Poo

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    Finding beauty in the dissonance
    It's very flat & neutral, like a hi-fi power amp.
     
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  3. gtr37

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    Sounds freaking awesome and this one cranks up the gain a bit
     
  4. JoeB63

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    Interesting. So, tone-wise, not really any different than plugging a Synergy pre-amp into a Fryette PowerStation?
     
  5. Its Luke

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    That's what i am hoping for.

    Have a Syn2 with Metro and Friedman BE modules on the way, and planning to use them with my Powerstation.
     
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    Cool, let me know how it goes!
     
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    You got it Joe, will do.
     
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    I sometimes use the Axe FX Ultra and CAB alone, though mainly I use the MTS preamps/CAB and the Axe FX Ultra for FX only. I do find that I need to use the CAB with the Axe FX Ultra's amp models as it adds a lot of character and bloom that's missing from the Axe FX Ultra's amp models (the Ultra is a older model etc).

    Note that the CAB's tube power amp sims Presence control works backwards, so IME you'll want to start with it at 100%, Depth at 50%, for all PP tube types excepting the 6L6's which have a lot of bottom, so Presence at 50% to start with that. Make sure you have at least -6db peaks to hit the power amp models good (the software editor has real metering). After that tweak to suit etc. Like real tube power amps a little goes a long way, so for most mid and pushed mid-gain tones you'll want the volume between 8 and 20 most of the time, depending on what kind of power amp color you're looking for. For high-gain preamp derived tones maybe 8 or less, though of course YMMV.

    As for cabs there are a lot of killer ones at the Too Notes store, most better than the stock cabs, or you can use your own IR's etc. Remember that the CAB comes with the WOS plugin for your DAW too, great for recording etc.

    The CAB can also be used in your tube amp's FX Loop as a killer master volume, as you can crush it's virtual power amp, and then control the final SPL with the CAB's output to your amp's power section.

    Ciao...
     
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    I tried the Blubox last week for cab sims. It was an epic fail. Not a single IR sounded as good as the cab sim on the SYN-2. I was very disappointed.
     
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    Thanks @djd100 for the useful information...
     
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    The BE module sounds good!
     
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    It does, but I'm starting to agree with the other poster in that Shawn's demos all sound very similar, especially the high gain modules.

    And am I the only one that skips to the Tele portion of each video? I mean, I love Strats, but low/medium gain pentatonic riffs on a Strat, especially on the neck pickup is like nails on a chalkboard sometimes.
     
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  14. stratamania

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    Agreed, not sure what I would pair it with in a Syn2 if I get one.

    I noticed that, especially with the Diezel.
     
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    I know exactly what you mean!

    I don't skip it but it is definitely my least favorite part of each of these videos. At that point i am like come on already, let's get to the humbuckers. : )
     
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    I think there is a lot of sameness to the video's. Not one would convince me to buy.
     
  17. Its Luke

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    Pair it with the Metroplex, that's my plan.
    Also thought about the Dirty Shirley...
    Between those three you would have your bases completely covered for the Marshall stuff.
     
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    The metroplex video sounds fantastic... Especially George's video where he compared his 68 SLP to the Metroplex module.
    No post editing or anything, bare bones setup comparing both amps to each other.
    That is the video that made me want to get into the Synergy stuff.
     
  19. voojo

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    I think the demos are well done, and in the case of the Diezel he commented that he was trying to show the lower gain tones that the module is capable of, and they didn't sound bad to me. That being said I have no personal interest in the Diezel module because that's not the style of music I play. I'm guessing Shawn isn't a high gain player either seeing as he plays with Carrie Underwood (and probably does session work as well.)

    One other thing to keep in mind is these were done with the same guitars, same power amp, same Bogner speaker cab miked the same way and recorded with the same equipment, and a monster player with a recognizable style.

    Also as stated previously some of these Marshall inspired modules are variations on a theme, so they're bound to sound at least somewhat similar.
     
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  20. gtr37

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    The DZL was the most surprising it actually sounded. More like channel 2
    And a British Crunch tone
    I personally think Synergy gets a great Fender and Marshall Crunch I still need to hear that modern hi gain
    To my ears the Fender Morgan and SLO are the best
    And most different
     

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