Synergy modular thread

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  1. i_b_tulloch

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    @btdvox Thanks for the feedback - good to know it works with the G2. I need to get my board setup now to get the G2 working. Need to finish the studio foist though! I have all the modules you mention except the VH4, so will be interesting to know which one didn't impress you.

    @gtr37 I had a play through the setup again today and what I would say is that the Synergy system is definitely noisier than my DS40. However, I turned the master on the DS way up when running a Synergy module and the noise was acceptable to me, I certainly won't need a mouse gate but then I don't normally play very heavy music.

    I had a long shot of the BE module today, alongside the Plexi module. I now realise how close the BE module feels to the BE100 I had, and why I liked it so much. Much more cutting that the (host) DS preamp. With the BE there is something very different to all other modules going on in the mids which makes for very addictive playing. One thing I didn't like so much was that I felt I couldn't get enough bottom end, even with the bass cranked right up. However, perhaps this is because Im more used to the DS preamp which naturally has so much more bottom end. Much like the Metroplex module, the BE Module B/M/T are all very interactive and small changes can make a big difference. I haven't cranked the BE module yet and it may open it up. The BE100 had C45 and FAT switches which I normally ran with on, but they module doesn't have these options. It feels to me like the BE module has the C45 circuit engaged but no FAT circuit. Its a shame this hasn't been included, as I expect it should be easy enough. Also, I remember the original BE having a tad more gain on tap on the BE channel. Not sure if there is any difference between the channels but I liked the red channel better. All this was my impression playing through a tone machine CS strat which has pretty hot single coils. I broke a string on the gibson LP so couldn't play hum buckers. I loved the BE100, but I don't particularly like big heads anymore and prefer practical combos. I loved the BE100 sound and although its very much the honeymoon period, I can see this module becoming a favourite. It may be that it fits a mix situation perfectly. I think the BB/BE combo is a smart move.

    I suppose the proof of the pudding is I can't stop thinking about how much I loved that BE mid thing and that I am dying to get back to play it some more.
     
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  2. The Lo Lands

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    Great stuff but when i think about what i would need at this moment it would be a high gain channel only. I play a Mesa Boogie Lone Star Classic head with 6L6 PT and the single module would add a great high gain channel. Only gripe, in Europe we have to pay for the SYN-1 about 550 euro ($655) and the modules cost 399 euro ($475) each. Thats a lot of money for a preamp channel only and for the money you could easily buy a great second hand (high gain) amp or even a new amp.

    I think in the end the complete package as a Synergy head with modules would be the best investment for my situation. My LSC with an extra high gain drive pedal suits me fine at this moment but i keep this Synergy system in mind, also i wanna wait and see if its really quality gear or just a new hyped toy which easily breaks down after a short period of time, i've already read some post about malfunctioning modules!?
     
  3. i_b_tulloch

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    @The Lo Lands I know what you mean about the price in Europe. If you are looking for one or two additional sounds it is an expensive way to go, second hand amp is probably the best route. If you are looking for lots of sounds Synergy makes more sense. For me personally, the way I look at it is that in the UK I have paid less for a Syn 2 and 7 modules that I would for a single 100W boutique head at the new uk price, but it gives me much more flexibility. New Friedman and other boutique brands are really out of most peoples reach in the UK now due to the poor exchange rate. Its up almost 33% on the price I paid a few years ago. Im not convinced the boutique market can keep going the way it is. Once you have the Syn 1 or 2 housing the modules are probably 1/3 price of a good new amp such as a Marshall 1987x. If you don't like it its only a few hundred quid to flip. I am building a single room studio so great silent guitar recording is essential and I like the simplicity of the Synergy system vs plugins/kemper etc.

    No doubt it is an expensive system for those in Europe though.
     
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  4. DMVGuitar

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    I bet your lonestar paired with a drive pedal sounds amazing. Why buy a synergy?
     
  5. The Lo Lands

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    It does, but i really like the concept of the Synergy. A year ago i had the Seymour Duncan Palladium Gain Stage pedal which i setup the same way as you would do with the Synergy, as a preamp, this worked very good with the Lone Star, only the Palladium was in the end not my cup of tea. I like the medium gain drive channel on the Lone Star, the clean channel is to die for, by adding the SYN-1 i can give it a high gain third channel and i can sell two pedals (MIAB and overdrive as boost) which makes my pedalboard smaller and to be honest i like the drive from the amp a tiny bit better then a drive pedal. But for the current price of the SYN-1 and a preamp module its not gonna happen :)
     
  6. DMVGuitar

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    Kingsley pedals maybe?
     
  7. The Lo Lands

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    I have seen some reviews online about Kingsley pedals but do they have a really high gain preamp pedal? What i've seen and heard was low to medium gain. Have to look into that but thank you!
     
  8. apalazzolo

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    You may want to ask @Vishnu about this.
     
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  9. Vishnu

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    I think mode 3 of the Minstrel and Harlot could be considered "high gain"

    How's the weather in your state Tony? Oh boy it's freezin' here brrrrrrr
     
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    It's colder than a gutshot bitch wolfdog with nine suckling pups pulling a number four trap uphill in the dead of winter in the middle of a snowstorm with a mouth full of porcupine quills!

    Are you two fellow scots?
     
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    Thanks guys but the Kingsley pedals is not exactly what i'm looking for. I visited the Kingsley website this evening to take a look..

    And for the record, i'm from the low lands because we live under sea level, in other words i come from The Netherlands :)
     
  13. teofilrocks

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    Even in USD, $900 seems a bit much if you just want to add one high-gain sound to your setup.

    What kind of high-gain you looking for? Obviously if it’s the Friedman BE style, a good place to start would be the BE-OD pedal.
     
  14. rumbletone

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    A bit much compared to what? Can’t think of too many devices with 4 high voltage tube gain stages, all that switching/control, cab sim, level shifters, and DI, made in the USA, that cost less than $900.
     
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  15. The Lo Lands

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    For Marshall drive the LSC and my Bogner La Grange gives me all i want. I think more modern and smooth high gain, maybe Diezel, Bogner or Mesa. The SD Palladium i had was great but their was something in the high end that annoyed me after a while. Maybe i must wait till the Chinese come up with cheap 'clone' modules for the Synergy ;-)
     
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    I’m not saying $900 is too much for what you get in the Synergy system. If I did, I wouldn’t have bought a SYN2. I’m saying if all someone is looking for is a single high gain sound added to their existing rig, $900 is a bit much compared to adding one pedal. If one is also looking for channel switching, cab sim, and DI, that’s a different story, but those were not mentioned.
     
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    I've got a Two-Rock Crystal and Drive pedals are quite possibly the best sounding through it, I still ended up going Synergy into the Two Rock and so far haven't regretted my decision at all.

    I still own a Vemuram Jan Ray and Galea (they sound amazing through Two-Rocks) but got rid of all my "amp in a box" pedals. I had the Friedman BE, Dirty Shirley and VH4-2 pedals that I sold to fund the Synergy system.


    Why are you comparing it to adding a pedal? You should be comparing it to buying other amps.
     
  18. DMVGuitar

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    Awesome. That is good a good report. I will keep an open mind.
     
  19. gtr37

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    I am actually waiting to see the SYN30 Head ,the features look good and call me crazy but I just think being mated to a power section , with transformers designed for that and all integrated in one box may sounds and feel a bit better than the Syn1 Syn2 , the only complaint i have is they should have put a master on it , if no room on front panel put one on the back .
    Midi is great but really to me a master is a nice to have as 30 watts gets loud fast
     
  20. gtr37

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    Is the module you are not loving the DZL?
    I see rave reviews for the Morgan , Soldano, Twin but the DZL seems to not get much praise .
    those amps also have a lot of the power section involved to push that sub bass ,perhaps that doesn't translate well to a module
     

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