TAD or JJ? 6L6GC

Discussion in 'Amps/Cabs Tech Corner: Amplifier, Cab & Speakers' started by JackButler, Feb 23, 2008.

  1. JackButler

    JackButler Supporting Member

    Messages:
    3,656
    Joined:
    Feb 7, 2006
    Location:
    NW Ohio
    Going to retube a SLO. I normally use JJ for all my amps when I retube, but had a set of TAD's in a Two Rock that sounded great. Yes, two way different amps of course, but any basic differences your guys' trained ears tell ya bewteen the two companies 6L6gc's?
    Thanks
     
  2. slider313

    slider313 Silver Supporting Member

    Messages:
    7,481
    Joined:
    Jul 28, 2005
    Location:
    NC
    I find the JJ's have great bass and mids with a little sizzle on the top end. A good tight tube with good note seperation, a little bit of crunch and more of a "British" tone to my ears than a NOS type 6L6GC. The TAD, to my ears, have a softer bass with less note seperation, mid forward with a little bit too much "mush" in the mids and a soft top end. Good if you don't need the clarity and like early break up.
     
  3. Lyle Caldwell

    Lyle Caldwell Member

    Messages:
    545
    Joined:
    Jan 8, 2005
    Location:
    Memphis
    Haven't tried the JJ, prefer the Tung-Sol to the TAD.
     
  4. slider313

    slider313 Silver Supporting Member

    Messages:
    7,481
    Joined:
    Jul 28, 2005
    Location:
    NC
    I think the new Tung Sol 6L6GC STR is the best sounding new production 6L6 available. These sound amazing in Fenders; Tweeds, Browns and Blackface's. I find them to have a nice transparent "woody" tone that all the rest are missing.
     
  5. rockon1

    rockon1 Member

    Messages:
    11,476
    Joined:
    Aug 12, 2005
    Location:
    Stamford CT
    Havent tried the TAD's but I have tried the JJ's. Nice tube with strong bass,decent mids. That said I recently put in a set of Winged C SED's I got from Mike at KCA and they seem a bit better all around . Good lows,mids and not harsh on the top. More than that they seemed fuller (more harmonically rich?)thanthe JJ's too. Both are nice but I'll probably order another set of the SED's for back up. Bob
     
  6. jonathansuhr

    jonathansuhr Member

    Messages:
    1,027
    Joined:
    Jan 19, 2008
  7. Greggy

    Greggy Member

    Messages:
    13,468
    Joined:
    May 8, 2002
    Location:
    The Antipodes To All That is Sacred and Pure
    I tried many of the new production 6l6s in my Soul-O 45 and the JJ 6l6GC is tremendous in that amp. As said above, tight pronounced bass. Also smooth top with just enough cut in the mix. Love 'em.
     
  8. The Pup

    The Pup Supporting Member

    Messages:
    2,722
    Joined:
    Nov 5, 2005
    There is no real consensus ever with tubes.
     
  9. Blue Strat

    Blue Strat Member

    Messages:
    30,036
    Joined:
    Aug 2, 2002
    Location:
    Sterling, VA (not far from Washington DC)
    .... or anything to do with tone. If there was, there would only be one amp, one guitar, one pickup, one speaker, one tube, etc.;)
     
  10. guitarsnguns04

    guitarsnguns04 Member

    Messages:
    982
    Joined:
    Aug 30, 2006
    Location:
    ohio
  11. Rosewood

    Rosewood Member

    Messages:
    1,875
    Joined:
    Feb 19, 2007
    I like JJ's but has anyone ever noticed how much less bias voltage it takes for the same amount of current as other brands, why is that?
     
  12. JackButler

    JackButler Supporting Member

    Messages:
    3,656
    Joined:
    Feb 7, 2006
    Location:
    NW Ohio
    So the JJ are louder tubes?

    All good info and insight guys. Imagine I'll stick with JJ as they work well in the other one I have, but sorta curious if perhaps any of the others are worth a shot. The one description of "woody" would greatly be to my liking if it is indeed on the money.

    I had the short bottle TAD's in the TR. Again, way different amps, but after trying various other brands and a few different sets of NOS in it I went back to those short bottles. I do not think they would be right in this amp, but the regualr bottles could be.

    For my needs, more low is always good, not that this amp needs anymore. Less spikey highs in a tube and smoother topend is my quest as usual. Love fat low/mids as well.
     
  13. Rosewood

    Rosewood Member

    Messages:
    1,875
    Joined:
    Feb 19, 2007
    Does that have an effect on tone or is it just a sensitivity thing?
    Sorry for hi-jacking.
     
  14. Rosewood

    Rosewood Member

    Messages:
    1,875
    Joined:
    Feb 19, 2007
    Thanks.
     
  15. Lex Luthier

    Lex Luthier Member

    Messages:
    1,760
    Joined:
    Jan 21, 2004
    Location:
    3rd stone from the sun
    Would you say they had more of a Sylvania 6CA7 vibe to them?
     
  16. slider313

    slider313 Silver Supporting Member

    Messages:
    7,481
    Joined:
    Jul 28, 2005
    Location:
    NC
    Yes. Kind of a cross between the Sylvania 6CA7 and their large bottle 6L6GC.
     
  17. Lex Luthier

    Lex Luthier Member

    Messages:
    1,760
    Joined:
    Jan 21, 2004
    Location:
    3rd stone from the sun
    That sounds cool, I'm going to have to try them, thanks.
     
  18. eric-d

    eric-d Member

    Messages:
    3,414
    Joined:
    Aug 14, 2005
    Location:
    Heaven, Hell, or Houston
    I have the TAD short bottles in my Top Hat Super Deluxe - I like them. I might try a set or the full sizes later on....
     
  19. gtr777

    gtr777 Supporting Member

    Messages:
    1,405
    Joined:
    May 30, 2005
    Location:
    Long Island NY
    I just re-tubed my SLO-100 and tried Ruby, JJ and TAD's. During the "shoot-out" I had my buddy with me who'd opinion I trust and we both picked-the TAD's. They were just a little more "forward" sounding then the others.
     
  20. JackButler

    JackButler Supporting Member

    Messages:
    3,656
    Joined:
    Feb 7, 2006
    Location:
    NW Ohio
    777, whatta ya mean more forward? Those are about the only ones I want to try in this SLO myself, but the JJ's have been working so well for me.
    Can you direct compare say the lows, mids, and highs for me please?
     

Share This Page